I think since Tomb Reaver won’t be the hardest hitting anymore, but will still be best when you need resistances, might as well socket it with 15@/15 max or some rare jewel with ed and resistances instead

Does the 3% IAS boost from maul do a direct +3SIAS per charge in the calculation?

Do you realize how long it'll take to hit that zon with one fury? You're going to miss 65% of the time. The zon won't. And that isn't nearly enough stack. They're going to have -160% light res in their build.

Yes, there will be a lot of evades for sure, I think at least one absorb will be required, I think Tomb will now be socketed with 30-40% light jewels, so tomb alone could be up to 130 lighting resistance, you would then use Fort for another 30, Highlords for 35, i have a 2 druid visio 30 all 70% LR helm as well, with 20anni 20 torch, my belt has 16% too OW, and I always use 4x 11lr/3frw scs, 30 annia. I would have 395 LR - 100 Hell, 295 at 80 cap with Fort and 20% light absorb (1 wisp), Fury will miss but it is also fast, not saying it would be easy but even at 65% miss Fury will be fast enough to get some hits in quickly.

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 6 2022 06:14pm

I will be straight up with yall this is a direct nerf once again bear and wolf are very slow in comparison forcing you to invest off weapon ias in order to remotely hit at the speed we are hitting now just tested 120 ias pb and it's speed is like watching wet paint dry compared to the attack speed we have now rip fireclaw bear build or any build with a fast attack speed weapon

this ias change is back to the human form from slow ias before all they did was increase gear ias from 75 to 150 so now you HAVE to invest in off weapon ias to hit any sort of high ias, sure this opens up pve since pve uses a variety of gear but wolf in pvp is very restrictive and adding ias is only obtainable on gloves and high lords which is 40 ias if thats the route your going but for builds like fireclaw or rabies or rabies/fury this will shrink our gear options even more for pvp

thats why they added the little tid bit '' increased fury attacks by 40%'' to fool you into thinking shapeshift got a good change but thats literally only fury attack and even still it only hits marginally fast in comparison, fire claw in wolf form is dusted

This post was edited by Lycans on Mar 6 2022 09:22pm

Those are good points about about bear, and to a degree fury/rabies, as rabies needs trangs gloves for example, 30% IAS in helm is attainable, and the amulet while restricted is not too bad. Weapons like Grief Pb and ba, EBOTD zerker, GPA and GT now hitting 3 frames with a starting frame of 4 is a very big deal, this can be accomplished with 30 ias helm + gloves + amulet. I agree WW level having to be high (depending on weapon of choice) does limit hybrid builds somewhat.

But overall I find this as a significant buff for both PvP and PvE, admitedly a lot more for PvE

that is only coming from a fury druids perspective though these changes are about opening options for a class not 1 specific build

yes the changes are good for fury druid, but it shouldnt be at the cost of fireclaw, rabies, or bear form just to increase a plain jane pure fury spec

This post was edited by Lycans on Mar 6 2022 09:24pm

based on that point alone it banishes jalals,cerberus, or any druid specific helms just to run 30ias in a helm for speed we already have thats gear limiting for every spec BUT pure fury which is not what these updates should be about