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Mar 6 2022 02:14am
Quote (Kisekinecro @ Mar 6 2022 09:07am)
https://youtu.be/DK6imlFMbeo

Not fury, but blade fury should work the same?


Thats the best test ever to show that phoenix dont interupt attacks anymore!
Because, bladefury has inzane slow startup and ending animation. So if pheonix would interupt it even 112 year old people would notice it xD

So he really picked the best skill ever for this test! :D

Pheonix does not interupt anymore. Just as patch notes said that they dont share cooldown with any other skills anymore :)
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Mar 6 2022 02:33am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 6 2022 08:11am)
Missed breakpoints on 2handed swords:
11/8/8/8/16 -- 7
10/8/8/8/16 -- 11
10/7/7/7/14 -- 21
9/7/7/7/13 -- 29
8/6/6/6/13 -- 38
8/6/6/6/12 -- 42


There misses som, but all the breakpoints you posted exists.

I can do full list later.

If u have formulas in excel or smt you just set wsm and ias to 0.
Then increase SIAS 1 by 1 and write down all breakpoints.
I can do this later.

If roundings are wrong you may miss breakpoints or they become fault. But urs are correct, there just miss a few inbetween.


I really should have kept those breakpoints....I left them out cos I was thinking that the "change in fps" inside significant enough to record, but to think about it now I realized how wrong I was with that thought.

The excel setup that I have only allow me to check for breakpoint based off FPD and EIAS

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L1JSIZ2Hv4_iHVVZMaE6b0DATvUK7PCP/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=117691999984268528588&rtpof=true&sd=true

So I think I won't be able to do the test for SIAS, sorry
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Mar 6 2022 03:23am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 6 2022 02:14am)
Thats the best test ever to show that phoenix dont interupt attacks anymore!
Because, bladefury has inzane slow startup and ending animation. So if pheonix would interupt it even 112 year old people would notice it xD

So he really picked the best skill ever for this test! :D

Pheonix does not interupt anymore. Just as patch notes said that they dont share cooldown with any other skills anymore :)



This is an awesome test indeed, finally Phoenix will be used the way it was intended
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Mar 6 2022 03:43am
Just got into a weird situation....

My friend was talking to me about the potential of pure summon with shapeshitering possibility.

And he was thinking of using "faith demon crossbow" so I ran some calculation

Crossbow need 150 EIAS for 3f...

Lv 12 fana gives 31 sias, lv 11 werewolf gives 59 sias

And WSM for demon crossbow is -60

So by punching in the number

120×(150-59-31+(-60)) / 120-(150-59-31+(-60)

=120×0/120-0

=0....

So in otherword all I need is lv 12 fana along with lv 11 werewolf and a -60 demon crossbow I will reach max 3f fury speed by default?
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Mar 6 2022 04:44am
Quote (Kisekinecro @ Mar 6 2022 10:43am)
Just got into a weird situation....

My friend was talking to me about the potential of pure summon with shapeshitering possibility.

And he was thinking of using "faith demon crossbow" so I ran some calculation

Crossbow need 150 EIAS for 3f...

Lv 12 fana gives 31 sias, lv 11 werewolf gives 59 sias

And WSM for demon crossbow is -60

So by punching in the number

120×(150-59-31+(-60)) / 120-(150-59-31+(-60)

=120×0/120-0

=0....

So in otherword all I need is lv 12 fana along with lv 11 werewolf and a -60 demon crossbow I will reach max 3f fury speed by default?


Yes this is correct :)

Yes you get 150 EIAS without any ias.
Floor(120*(150-59-31+(-60)) / (120-(150-59-31+(-60)))) = 0

5/3/3/3/6 frames.
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Mar 6 2022 04:46am
Quote (Kisekinecro @ Mar 6 2022 09:33am)
I really should have kept those breakpoints....I left them out cos I was thinking that the "change in fps" inside significant enough to record, but to think about it now I realized how wrong I was with that thought.

The excel setup that I have only allow me to check for breakpoint based off FPD and EIAS

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L1JSIZ2Hv4_iHVVZMaE6b0DATvUK7PCP/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=117691999984268528588&rtpof=true&sd=true

So I think I won't be able to do the test for SIAS, sorry


Okay, thats fine though :)

Yes most likely its not much difference... But when making an EIAS table its best to have all breaks on it :)

Im halfways on Xbow, and then only miss 2 handed spears.
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Mar 6 2022 04:58am
Man this kinda topic rocks.

So if i understand well , SIAS is much more important than gear ias ? and weapon ias / armor ias have the same wieght now ? ( unlike before )

What are the exact frames breakpoints for 2 handed druid ?
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Mar 6 2022 05:17am
Quote (Nemergix @ Mar 6 2022 11:58am)
Man this kinda topic rocks.

So if i understand well , SIAS is much more important than gear ias ? and weapon ias / armor ias have the same wieght now ? ( unlike before )

What are the exact frames breakpoints for 2 handed druid ?


That is correct.
There used to be some difference between wep ias and wsm and slow scaling on shapers in particular but that is now removed.

Now:
EIAS, WSM, SIAS, SLOW scales 1 to 1.
IAS has diminishing returns.
On which item you have the ias has zero difference. (with exception of barb/assa wirlwind)

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 6 2022 05:18am
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Mar 6 2022 05:30am
Thanks again.

When you say EIAS , Do you mean the result of the formula ( 120*IAS/(120+IAS)+SkillIAS-WSM = EIAS) or just the (120*ias)/(120+ias) part ?

Quote (gel87 @ Mar 6 2022 11:44am)
Yes this is correct :)

Yes you get 150 EIAS without any ias.
Floor(120*(150-59-31+(-60)) / (120-(150-59-31+(-60)))) = 0

5/3/3/3/6 frames.


Also here you seem to be using a different formula. you add WSM and SIAS to the denominator and the numerator ; instead of just adding it after the fraction. Please clarify. And thanks again for your work ! :thumbsup:
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Quote (slimeseason @ 22 Jan 2022 02:49)
They need to give druid in shapeshifting teleport, otherwise he's still gonna be garbage end game


ban enigma.. done
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