Just because most of you got used to a Glitch in a game that Blizz never cared enough to fix simple glitches that does not mean we have to have the same bugs and glitches now. It's a remastered version, which means some of the bugs and glitches that were always there has to be removed for us to see what is like to play without them 20 years old glitches.

Meta will change ofc. But I am looking forward to the Meta change, because that would just be interesting. There is going to be new meta, embrace it.

The meta change you're defining takes a cast of characters from the entire cast, to effectively siin / barb/ hdin at the highest level. I know you don't pvp at a significant level, I know you probably never left pub duels. But for the love of god, please stop talking.

Adding back the Glitch is not the way to go, this is what I am saying. Once the release comes in and we get to experience the PvP without the Glitch then devs can get a data of what's disrupting the PvP and what needs to be re-balanced in order to create a wide PvP oriented build diversity. But I do not think the way to PvP in this game has to be that everything evolves around a Glitch. They need to start clean with no glitches and bugs in order to get Data that could help them rebalance PvP to be viable for as many builds as possible. And this is where removing this Glitch is a good start

Keep in mind there is 1-3 years tops until Diablo 4 comes out. I know we love D2, but in general we just like Diablo series. We will play Diablo 4 most likely so until then let just have some newer experience with our beloved D2 game. Would it be different than past 15 years? Yes. It should be

This post was edited by bobsyns on Aug 23 2021 12:40pm

Abosutely, unequivocally wrong and misinformed. The "glitch" that you pvm players seem to love to hate, is considered a feature of d2 pvp. It effectively adds balance to the entire cast of characters. It is a reliable mechanic, that takes skill and practice to utilize correctly. It is a great solution, which as you can see by this thread, pvper's adore and want to see in the remaster.

While you're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that, it does not mean that your opinion isn't shit.

you are talking as d2 is lol or wow. devs will have data from what? there isnt rating or arena. do you think they will go ingame tvt2//xs and count the point ?
there is no way to get data from pvp there isnt ranked pvp here
its just agreement between player.

If the glitch not being in the game has such as huge impact as you saying. There is going to be more than enough data about it. A lot of people will livestream duels and what not for D2R. Now it's not 20 years ago when there weren't even streaming platforms nor good enough hardware and internet connections to secure stable livestreaming. We have a new start in a new era with many many more possibilities and advanced technologies, some of which in coding. Don't you worry

pvp need community to enforce gm rulez. d2 pvp is very different than any other pvp. actual pvper dont even want to buy the game i doubt they will stream it.
D2 have no rating or mmr. if some pvmer duel is friend between two lvling speedrun , it doesnt represent pvp problem. it will be like arena at 800 rating on wow would serve as data to balance arena.
D2 don't have a way to get data, thats why gm rulez was allways made by best player and enforced by all other who wanted to be a part of it.
except hostile button blizzard did never follow pvp or try to help it.

This post was edited by alzheimertib2 on Aug 23 2021 01:05pm

These responses man:



I am well aware of where GM rulesets came from, who has written different versions over time, and how it has evolved & been distributed for the past 10+ years.
Click the link in my signature, notice the view count, and understand that the version hand written by myself in that thread might actually be the most viewed Diablo 2 GM Ruleset anywhere on the internet.


Then we have guys posting egotistical self-important Ad Hominems like this:



You know what, there is one thing to note here:

The bolded is correct, so if you want this pvp community to grow rather than shrink, it would be good to practice a bit more respect than that.

Clearly he has no clue. It’s weird too because it’ll never effect him.. not sure why he cares so much. Just screwing over the people who use it.

Some people

when it comes to wsg, i would ask myself wwjd.

I'm sure blizzard is doing the same