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Nov 12 2021 06:29pm
So what you’re really saying is…

This isn’t a “Remaster”. They changed cored code.
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Nov 12 2021 06:30pm
Yes but watch out for the bears
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Nov 12 2021 10:17pm
Nice work Gel, but I am not quite grasping these calculations.

Could someone just clear up two questions here?
- What is the actual IAS breakpoint for Diamond/Shadow Faith to hit 6fpa? And will it matter if it is 13, 14, or 15, to be able to hit that breakpoint?
- What is the actual IAS breakpoint for Matriarchal Faith to hit 6fpa? And will it matter if it is 13, 14, or 15, to be able to hit that breakpoint?
--- By this I mean as in, just a solid number, in the same way one could say "You functionally need 95% ias with a GMB Faith to hit 7fpa"

OK, I seen it posted in a different thread.
So we are looking at 155% for 6fpa Diamond/Shadow, 215% which unachievable with GMB so GMB stays at 7fpa 95%, but what is Matriarchal breaking at for 6fpa?
I'm still not seeing any posts about exact Matriarchal 15 Faith breakpoint in terms of amount of IAS for Amazon using standard attack.

Also if anyone cares to dig into it, what are the exact new breakpoints for Amazon Throw and Jab, for Matriarchal, Hyperion, and Winged Harpoons? "all the fastest type"

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Nov 12 2021 10:42pm
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Quote (TSBoyer @ Nov 13 2021 05:17am)
Nice work Gel, but I am not quite grasping these calculations.

Could someone just clear up two questions here?
- What is the actual IAS breakpoint for Diamond/Shadow Faith to hit 6fpa? And will it matter if it is 13, 14, or 15, to be able to hit that breakpoint?
- What is the actual IAS breakpoint for Matriarchal Faith to hit 6fpa? And will it matter if it is 13, 14, or 15, to be able to hit that breakpoint?
--- By this I mean as in, just a solid number, in the same way one could say "You functionally need 95% ias with a GMB Faith to hit 7fpa"

OK, I seen it posted in a different thread.
So we are looking at 155% for 6fpa Diamond/Shadow, 215% which unachievable with GMB so GMB stays at 7fpa 95%, but what is Matriarchal breaking at for 6fpa?
I'm still not seeing any posts about exact Matriarchal 15 Faith breakpoint in terms of amount of IAS for Amazon using standard attack.

Also if anyone cares to dig into it, what are the exact new breakpoints for Amazon Throw and Jab, for Matriarchal, Hyperion, and Winged Harpoons? "all the fastest type"


Faith mb
109ias for 6fpa

I can give jab later, wife is stressed out and need help xD

Edit:
Jab has a natural 30 penalty to wsm, which means they were never breaking the eias cap of 75. So old ias breakpoints are relevant. 280 max ias for -10 wsm ceremonial.



This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 13 2021 03:23am
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Nov 13 2021 03:11am
I didn't read this but I do appreciate guys like you lol.
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Nov 13 2021 06:32am
I have build me a insane character around this thread just to test out the uncapped IAS breakpoints. Made a max IAS breakpoints riftsin. Here under are some of the core equipped used in it. Still need to get some new jewels in it for the final build but apart from that... Further equipment are cats eye, loh, raven, treachery Andy's with a 15ias jewel in it and a rare ring. Gives me a total of 165 EIAS without BoS active. The kick speed is insane as well as the damage output from as well the kicking as the crazy amount of frozen orbs being cast. Will try to upload a vid soon.




This post was edited by watermarkxx on Nov 13 2021 06:32am
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Quote (hobolemnade @ Nov 12 2021 08:09pm)
Quote (gel87 @ Nov 12 2021 10:48am)
Quote (hobolemnade @ Nov 12 2021 05:33pm)
So based on your werewolf IAS post and the current IAS D2R bug/change I was theorycrafting to see how fast of Fire Claw werwolf could be made. My setup is as follows, and using your equations I got a result of 2 fpa, however in testing in Singleplayer it seems like it gets stuck at 3fpa.

Here is setup:
Demon Machine with 5x shael (-60 WSM, 100 weapon IAS)
95% IAS from other gear
71 Skill IAS from Werewolf
33 Skill Ias from level 15 Fanaticism from Merc Faith
(Totaling 104 skill IAS)

Caculation results:
Delay - 7
Anim Speed - 329
Speed Increase - 238
Fire Claw Frames - 2 (this is the same as the final hit of Maul, right?)


If you have time/energy to let me know where this may have gone wrong let me know.


I get the same as you.

I noticed on 93 gear ias it drops to 3 frames.
I will have a look if it can have anything to do with rounding..



Closest I can tell is that SIAS is capped at 87? Seems like a very weird number to cap it at though. May be some form of diminishing returns instead but idk. Seems like my dream of 2 fpa fire claw is dead though


Hi, i tested some and i think eias is capped at 200.
My 1 frame assa bear has 200EIAS excact.

I tried:
Ias equialent of reaching 2 frames with 87 SIAS (299 ias) and still same attackspeed i think. Hard to see on my laggy pc xD
And my bearsin use 90 SIAS to reach 1 frame.



Looks like EIAS might be capped at 200 for d2r.
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Nov 13 2021 02:26pm
Since EIAS is capped at 200 it seems impossible as an druid to get 2 frame fireclaw.

I tried to dex bug my pb to fake that im slamming hands(HTH) with 15 frames pr direction, but did not work like in d2lod. "red wep boxer build"

The next closest was bow. But to few socets. -10wsm base hit above 200eias to easy and 0wsm base needed 1 more soc to be able to get 2 frames^^

I also tested phoenix + stormlash, looks cool. Firestorm delays next serie a little, but thats not much at all. And u cast like 3 firestorm each serie.
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Nov 15 2021 12:22am
Quote (watermarkxx @ 13 Nov 2021 13:32)
I have build me a insane character around this thread just to test out the uncapped IAS breakpoints. Made a max IAS breakpoints riftsin. Here under are some of the core equipped used in it. Still need to get some new jewels in it for the final build but apart from that... Further equipment are cats eye, loh, raven, treachery Andy's with a 15ias jewel in it and a rare ring. Gives me a total of 165 EIAS without BoS active. The kick speed is insane as well as the damage output from as well the kicking as the crazy amount of frozen orbs being cast. Will try to upload a vid soon.
https://i.imgur.com/CZyDFQA.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/flumQ6Y.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cuxg5Fj.jpeg


you wont be able to spam frozen orb proc since there is a 1sec cooldown on orb cast
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Nov 15 2021 12:37am
Quote (LeCorbeau @ 15 Nov 2021 07:22)
you wont be able to spam frozen orb proc since there is a 1sec cooldown on orb cast


Not for rift.

This post was edited by cantero on Nov 15 2021 12:41am
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