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#51
Mar 16 2026 12:56pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Mar 16 2026 02:52pm)
im still lost, lol


Lol! I basically was just using rough calculations as 21000*0.75 /= 15750*1.25

Essentially don't take those numbers as absolute values.

In the end the only thing that matters is the 15% magic damage is roughly equal to -10% enemy magic resist vs a sundered magic immune BUT its does 2k more damage per hammer vs non magic immunes.

TLDR = +magic dmg better than -magic res on sunder for din with the gear options shown
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#52
Mar 16 2026 12:59pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ 16 Mar 2026 16:37)
im going shako + turbo magic facet because im playing hc
more life, longer bo, dr... i have a hard time justifying giving up the shako for the added dmg.
pushing almost 300mf/125fcr and a tank with maxblock and 4.2k life. really nice to no longer avoid magic imunes.
-25% enemy magic res.

i also wouldnt bother with hellwardens unless im also making use of that fcr somehow. but this is what im running atm;

shako - -10% guardians light
hoto - will swap out for void eventually
nigma
mara
spirit
magefists
-5% sling
arach
bk
waterwalks/horazons legacy

cta/spirit swap

torch
anni
-10% black cleft
gheeds
pcomb lifers

a2 prayer merc
eth insight
eth coh
eth cure


That’s not a lot of dr, amp seis could prolly 1-2 tap you with that
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#53
Mar 16 2026 01:01pm
Trying to figure out if I should go the Hellwarden route on my hybrid. He’s max FOH and everything relevant to that, Hammer at 39 (base 20), Conc at 20 (base 4), 20 hard points in Aim, 8 hard points in Vigor. He’s my best by far for Terror Zones, but slow when he gets to things that need to be hammered.

Currently wearing Chamed Shako, but that could be swapped for Hellwarden with a Guardian jewel. That forces me to swap Travs for Horazon boots for CBF but allows me to then swap Magefists for…Chanceguards? Random FCR ring could be swapped for Sling for more Magic punch.
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#54
Mar 16 2026 01:01pm
Quote (Stefbef @ Mar 17 2026 01:59am)
That’s not a lot of dr, amp seis could prolly 1-2 tap you with that


De Seis minions maybe,
De Seis himself I doubt it :bouncy:
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#55
Mar 16 2026 01:02pm
Quote (Stefbef @ Mar 16 2026 02:59pm)
That’s not a lot of dr, amp seis could prolly 1-2 tap you with that


18% dr and no issues so far. seis is only awkward for an hdin who doesnt yet have teleport, once you get enigma, seis is easy with accurate/consistent positioning.
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#56
Mar 16 2026 01:02pm
Quote (DrLandau @ Mar 17 2026 02:01am)
Trying to figure out if I should go the Hellwarden route on my hybrid. He’s max FOH and everything relevant to that, Hammer at 39 (base 20), Conc at 20 (base 4), 20 hard points in Aim, 8 hard points in Vigor. He’s my best by far for Terror Zones, but slow when he gets to things that need to be hammered.

Currently wearing Chamed Shako, but that could be swapped for Hellwarden with a Guardian jewel. That forces me to swap Travs for Horazon boots for CBF but allows me to then swap Magefists for…Chanceguards? Random FCR ring could be swapped for Sling for more Magic punch.


First, go 20 vigor and 8 aim.
You never use aim but you do use vigor.
Please
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Mar 16 2026 01:05pm
Quote (DrLandau @ Mar 16 2026 03:01pm)
Trying to figure out if I should go the Hellwarden route on my hybrid. He’s max FOH and everything relevant to that, Hammer at 39 (base 20), Conc at 20 (base 4), 20 hard points in Aim, 8 hard points in Vigor. He’s my best by far for Terror Zones, but slow when he gets to things that need to be hammered.

Currently wearing Chamed Shako, but that could be swapped for Hellwarden with a Guardian jewel. That forces me to swap Travs for Horazon boots for CBF but allows me to then swap Magefists for…Chanceguards? Random FCR ring could be swapped for Sling for more Magic punch.


sling for sure, especially if you normally carry a tp tome. my sling ring gives me 40life/22fire res since i get 2x additional small charms where my tp tome was. CBF is really not critical for hdins with teleport.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Mar 16 2026 01:07pm
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#58
Mar 16 2026 01:06pm
Also as a general rule:

-1% res > +1% dmg when mob resist > 0

-1% res < +1% dmg when mob resist < 0
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#59
Mar 16 2026 01:07pm
Quote (C4NTWO @ Mar 17 2026 02:02am)
18% dr and no issues so far. seis is only awkward for an hdin who doesnt yet have teleport, once you get enigma, seis is easy with accurate/consistent positioning.


Merc drags minions away from seis then tele stomp de seis in 2 hammers, go next either vizier or infector depending on your preferred route.
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#60
Mar 16 2026 01:12pm
Quote (Azomon @ Mar 16 2026 03:02pm)
First, go 20 vigor and 8 aim.
You never use aim but you do use vigor.
Please


That’s fair. I’m not sure I use Vigor enough that the 20+
it hits with +skills isn’t plenty already, but your way is more sensible in principle. Probably doing a respec anyway to clear up a couple of wasted points, so I’ll make this change while I’m at it.
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