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Mar 4 2026 03:21pm
Playing enigma-less warlock made me appreciate it doesn't matter how overpowered a damage skill is when 90% of farming is movement.


Thanks for sharing, i did go sorc for that very reason - but of course I sometime wonder a bit when I see and hear about warlock dmg 😅


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It should always result in more dmg
nearly even if all you wear is hoto vs void, nothing else
but it should slowly scale up in favour of void as you add more and more +skills


Ok so this means it would be the same for Shako vs Hellwarden (or whatever +1 sk helm) with +10 magic dmg% guardians light then ? Since my Void is 10%.
But would a +5% magic dmg jool make up for the -1 skill ? Not counting the -magic res% of guardians light or hellwardens

Edit : basically I wonder how much +magic dmg% you need to make up for +1 sk.

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Ok so this means it would be the same for Shako vs Hellwarden (or whatever +1 sk helm) with +10 magic dmg% guardians light then ? Since my Void is 10%.
But would a +5% magic dmg jool make up for the -1 skill ? Not counting the -magic res% of guardians light or hellwardens


I return to my initial statement, I lost my love for hdins long ago, so I did not care to compare all the possible setups with those new items.
But according to AltonBrown, maxroll's number should be fine.
So if you want to compare anything, just input your setup and see the dmg calc tab to see what is best for you :p
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I return to my initial statement, I lost my love for hdins long ago, so I did not care to compare all the possible setups with those new items.
But according to AltonBrown, maxroll's number should be fine.
So if you want to compare anything, just input your setup and see the dmg calc tab to see what is best for you :p


Will do ^_^
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Ok so this means it would be the same for Shako vs Hellwarden (or whatever +1 sk helm) with +10 magic dmg% guardians light then ? Since my Void is 10%.
But would a +5% magic dmg jool make up for the -1 skill ? Not counting the -magic res% of guardians light or hellwardens

Edit : basically I wonder how much +magic dmg% you need to make up for +1 sk.


No, the numbers change as you stack more and more magic dmg%. You'd have to test with gheeds, sling, hellwardens vs 2/20, arach, soj. You also won't hit the same FCR bp without also swapping other gear around

This post was edited by AltonBrown on Mar 4 2026 03:35pm
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So is there a BH/conc level at which Void becomes better or is it always better than HOTO dmg wise ?


It's always better if you have no other sources of magic dmg%. Even at level 23hammer (no other source of +sk), Void is 1.3% stronger than Hoto.


But if you had gheeds+hellwardens and no other +sk, then hoto is actually better than voids. (But in practice, this level of imbalance is impossible.)

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Mar 4 2026 03:54pm
It's always better if you have no other sources of magic dmg%. Even at level 23hammer (no other source of +sk), Void is 1.3% stronger than Hoto.


But if you had gheeds+hellwardens and no other +sk, then hoto is actually better than voids. (But in practice, this level of imbalance is impossible.)


Gheeds and Hellwardens are -enemy magic res tho, not +magic dmg. Or does it work the same in the end ?
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wc barb can finally fly through all content (except ubers but can do dclone easily)


how did warcry barb get buffed
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Someone gimme an update on lightning fury amazon. Anything new? Heard theres a new pierce item? What is it lmk!
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Gheeds and Hellwardens are -enemy magic res tho, not +magic dmg. Or does it work the same in the end ?


No, it's slight different. -enemy res is it's own multiplicative factor but kinda hard to judge since enemy magic resist is variable. (most value will be against magic immunes who get sundered) i.e. act 2 ressers
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