Quote (Fonzy69 @ Feb 14 2026 01:53pm)

Honestly i highly disagree with that
I might understand why some person would be mad at gm melee for banning grief but if you don't: as soon as you would start gm melee and see 100% of person using the same gear with same weapon i can tell you for sure that it will be boring af and everyone would stop

Then for normal high level pvp there isn't much rules that makes rares much better
Sometimes game is unbalanced so to give a fair competition some skills are limited (lvl 13 bone spirit is the first exemple that goes through my mind right now)

But it's the same idea as in gm melee
If one class is overpowered either you limit it or you will end up with 100% of the same class with same gear on the pvp games
And that wouldn't be fun

Fun lies in diversity
And to help diversity to shine you must balance what blizzard cannot do
So you make rules, you call it "gm" so now each and every char is good vs all and all char as a specific counter ones
Diversity shines
And that's what make this game so nice for pvp

At least that's my point of view
Feel free to go in pub and play the way you like though

Quote (unitard @ Feb 14 2026 11:12pm)

I don't think I said anything in my original post that disagreed with anything you just wrote so kind of strange to get highly disagreed with but i'm ok with that? I'm not against rules, but when the rules are 16 pages long on a google doc, it's no wonder why there's only a relative small group of pvpers in a game where there used to be more pvp action when d2 lod first came out. I enjoy pvp, especially gm pvp, but I don't think the current "rules" system that's drafted by a small group of people necessarily makes pvp accessible for more players. also i'm not sure there's a lot of diversity in pvp right now?

when people say that this game is only made with pve in mind, that's prob true, but pvp was fun long before the spreadsheet of rules piled on. even those days with hex/quarks/white gloves/rings had a kind of organized chaos even though it made the game vastly imbalanced. when 1.10 rolled out with enigma, players found balance without rules. at the end of the day, I don't think we disagree all that much? it's all the result of us talking about a 25 year old game.