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Mar 5 2022 01:23am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 5 2022 12:11am)
For me it looks like 4 frames.
I will test with 10ias, greater maul, 71 skill ias tomorrow.
If thats looks like 5 frames, and not 4 frames im pretty confident i know the formula now.

I believe what they did was to play animation 40% faster on serial attacks in fury.
That basicly means 358 animrate instead of 256.

Formula would then be:
First 4 attacks:
Ceiling((FramesPrDirection+1)/2*256/floor(358*(100+EIAS)/100))
Last attack:
Ceiling(FramesPrDirection*256/floor(256*(100+EIAS)/100))-1

And i dont think the none ptr werewolf even reach 4 frames. Cause it has not increased the serial attack by 40% and it has a max eias of 75 instead of 150.

On d2lod it uses druid human FramesPrDirection in its animspeed calculations, which includes a delay, but this delay was speeded up both by wsm and wepon Ias. And then it used werewolf FramesPrDirection in combination with the new calculated custom animationspeed of like 450-480 some where.

The reason im familiar with 4 and 5 frames fury in legacy mode is due to my werewolf on d2 lod used either eth tomb(4fpa), or botd ba + stormshield(5fpa)


Based on theese formulas i have the EIAS breaks for Polearms/2handed-axes-hammers and 1 handed wepons:

STAF (17 FPD)
FPA -- EIAS
7/7/7/7/16 -- 0
7/7/7/7/15 -- 7
6/6/6/6/15 -- 8
6/6/6/6/14 -- 16
6/6/6/6/13 -- 27
5/5/5/5/13 -- 29
5/5/5/5/12 -- 31
5/5/5/5/11 -- 42
5/5/5/5/10 -- 55
4/4/4/4/10 -- 61
4/4/4/4/9 -- 71
4/4/4/4/8 -- 90
4/4/4/4/7 -- 113
3/3/3/3/7 -- 115
3/3/3/3/6 -- 143

1HS & 1HT (19 FPD)
FPA -- EIAS
8/8/8/8/18 -- 0
7/7/7/7/18 -- 3
7/7/7/7/17 -- 6
7/7/7/7/16 -- 13
7/7/7/7/15 -- 19
6/6/6/6/15 -- 20
6/6/6/6/14 -- 27
6/6/6/6/13 -- 36
5/5/5/5/13 -- 43
5/5/5/5/12 -- 47
5/5/5/5/11 -- 59
5/5/5/5/10 -- 74
4/4/4/4/10 -- 79
4/4/4/4/9 -- 91
4/4/4/4/8 -- 112
4/4/4/4/7 -- 138
3/3/3/3/7 -- 139

=Ceiling(120*(EIAS-SIAS+WSM)/(120-(EIAS-SIAS+WSM))) to find ias needed.
(bugs out at inzane values... Shows a negativ number then, like if u use a slow base, low skill ias etc.. OFc also will show negative values where you already is above EIAS break with ur SIAS and WSM)

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 5 2022 01:53am
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Mar 5 2022 01:37am
Quote (oscarmk @ Mar 5 2022 08:19am)
One thing to keep in mind is that Tomb reaver should be able to reach 3 frames with a bit more IAS than GPA, and has higher average damage cryptic vs GPA, wonder if socketed tomb with 40ed/15max or 2 x Lo would make it better damage wise than 415% ebotd GPA, GPA would still have the AR benefit and life due to +30 all attributes and the 5 range which is great, but tomb would have the all resistances versus sorceress


What i can see you need 86ias with tombreaver to get 3/3/3/3/7.
223 for 3/3/3/3/6.
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Mar 5 2022 01:44am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 5 2022 01:23am)
Based on theese formulas i have the EIAS breaks for Polearms/2handed-axes-hammers and 1 handed wepons:

STAF (17 FPD)
FPA -- EIAS
7/7/7/7/16 -- 0
7/7/7/7/15 -- 7
6/6/6/6/15 -- 8
6/6/6/6/14 -- 16
6/6/6/6/13 -- 27
5/5/5/5/13 -- 29
5/5/5/5/12 -- 31
5/5/5/5/11 -- 42
5/5/5/5/10 -- 55
4/4/4/4/10 -- 61
4/4/4/4/9 -- 71
4/4/4/4/8 -- 90
4/4/4/4/7 -- 113
3/3/3/3/7 -- 115
3/3/3/3/6 -- 143

1HS & 1HT (19 FPD)
FPA -- EIAS
8/8/8/8/18 -- 0
7/7/7/7/18 -- 3
7/7/7/7/17 -- 6
7/7/7/7/16 -- 13
7/7/7/7/15 -- 19
6/6/6/6/15 -- 20
6/6/6/6/14 -- 27
6/6/6/6/13 -- 36
5/5/5/5/13 -- 43
5/5/5/5/12 -- 47
5/5/5/5/11 -- 59
5/5/5/5/10 -- 74
4/4/4/4/10 -- 79
4/4/4/4/9 -- 91
4/4/4/4/8 -- 112
4/4/4/4/7 -- 138
3/3/3/3/7 -- 139


Awesome data! Are the last 2 on 1 hand just 1 eias difference?
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Mar 5 2022 01:46am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 5 2022 01:37am)
What i can see you need 86ias with tombreaver to get 3/3/3/3/7.
223 for 3/3/3/3/6.



Should be very easy then, can definitely do 40/15max on it then
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Mar 5 2022 01:50am
Quote (oscarmk @ Mar 5 2022 08:46am)
Should be very easy then, can definitely do 40/15max on it then


SLOW will bring you down.

Lets look at 10% slow:
120 ias for 3/3/3/3/7 break

Lets look at 25% slow:
200 ias for 3/3/3/3/7 break.
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Mar 5 2022 01:57am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 5 2022 01:50am)
SLOW will bring you down.

Lets look at 10% slow:
120 ias for 3/3/3/3/7 break

Lets look at 25% slow:
200 ias for 3/3/3/3/7 break.



Are you referring to SLOW like cleglaw pincers?
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Mar 5 2022 02:00am
Quote (oscarmk @ Mar 4 2022 11:57pm)
Are you referring to SLOW like cleglaw pincers?


I think what gel87 mean is things like freeze and decay
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Quote (oscarmk @ Mar 5 2022 08:57am)
Are you referring to SLOW like cleglaw pincers?


yes, arach / gleglaws / golems / holy freeze etc.

For those who wondered about 3 frames stormlash ctc build we need 99ias for that with 75 skill ias.

Fully syntenergized nadoes will deal:
Current Skill Level: 18
Damage: 1491-1619

Fully syntenergied firestorm without facets:
Current Skill Level: 22
27: Average Fire Damage: 1266-1470 per second
Last for 1,4 seconds.
1470 x 1,4 = 2058

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 5 2022 02:14am
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Mar 5 2022 02:41am
Just for fun. PVM build.

Lets see what we need if we gonna make both stormlash + pheonix syntenergied as much as possible.
We choose eth reapers merc i guess with might. Treacury + guilaume cham.

We choose HL for ias and skill and deadly strike.
We choose jalas cause we need too boost werewolf lvl for free skill ias to have points for syntenergies.
We choose 8 shape skillers to boost werewolf level.
We need a dual leech ring and a raven, so no skill points there.
We have annie and torch (4 skills)
And we cast bo/bc (1skill)
We keep belt free for usage of strings.
Gores for dmg.
LOH for dmg and ias.

8 to druid/all skills
11 shape skills

At level 99 we put:
1 how, oak, spirit wolf, dire wolf, raven, grizzly, 1 werewolf, 1 lycan, 1 feral, 1 rabies, 1 fury.
20 cyclone
20 twister
1 nado
20 hurricane
1 firestorm
16 moulten boulder
20 fissure

Werewolf Skill ias:
68
Base -10
FPD: 19

We seem to need 125 ias.
LOH-HL-Treachury-Eth Stormlash+15ias jool in jalals = 130ias

Average damage of Scourge:
41,5
41,5 * 1,5(eth) * 4(300% ed) = 249 average dmg wep.
We use 9 x 3max/ar/life scs. = 13,5 average dmg.
249 + 13,5 = 262,5 average base dmg.
Fury ed%: 423
HOW ed%: 76%
Lets assume 150 str: 150*1,1 = 165 ED.
Lvl 20 might: 230% ed
52% deadly strike.
52% crushing blow.
10% ow(stops repl of ubers and such)
Lvl 15 fade. Gives us 30% dr in combi with Strings.

Vs regular mobs: 262,5 * (1+((423+76+165+230+400)/100) * 1,52 = 5562 AVERAGE dmg. 3/3/3/3/7 FPA
VS demons: 262,5 * (1+((423+76+165+230+400+350)/100) * 1,52 = 6958 AVERAGE dmg. 3/3/3/3/7 FPA
VS undeads: 262,5 * (1+((423+76+165+230+400+50)/100) * 1,52 = 5761 AVERAGE dmg. 3/3/3/3/7 FPA

Hurricane:
Current Skill Level: 28
10: Cold Damage: 895-968
Chills/Freezes target.
(optional to use)

20% chance to cast lvl 18 nadoes dealing 1491-1619 damge. (average 1 pr serie, 1 serie last: 19 frames. 25/19 = 1,31 pr second. Its ofc AOE dmg.
40% chance to cast lvl 22 firestorm dealing 1152-1337 per second. (last 1,4 seconds, big scaled monsters such as bosses may take 3 times the damge, is AOE dmg, 2 cast pr fury serie)
-28 enemy fire res (pheonix)
-50 enemy physical res (merc) (also helps crushing blow a lot)
% slow vs enemies and % weaken effect to enemies.
18% chance to cast statics.
1-514 light dmg to help vs physical immunes with stoneskin.
Zoo for meatshield
Pheonix for insta heal of mana and life. Unsure if it heals summons/merc.

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 5 2022 02:49am
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Quote (gel87 @ Mar 5 2022 09:41am)
Just for fun. PVM build.

LOH-HL-Treachury-Eth Stormlash+15ias jool in jalals = 130ias
and life. Unsure if it heals summons/merc.


Can you give me IAS breakpoints for a - 15 WSM 2 hand axe with 66/68SIAS?

This post was edited by der_feine_herrr on Mar 5 2022 03:47am
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