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Oct 3 2022 02:07pm
sounds to me sorc gear about to be real expensive
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Oct 3 2022 02:07pm
Quote (kayko @ Oct 3 2022 10:04pm)
Not really.

Previously (pre 2.5) if monster had 116 light res, conviction would bring it down to 116 - 17 = 99.

Now it will be 95 - 17 = 78

So infinity still stronger than in 2.4 but weaker than without the 1/5 penalty.


And nobody worries about conviction on FOH? :(
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Quote (Kosma @ 3 Oct 2022 21:56)
So what is the diffrence now for the mobs that had immunity that was already breakable with conviction/lr ? Sunder+infi vs infi only? 5%?


I think the wording is not that clear...

Lower resist has always been just 1/5 effective on mobs that were immune. for instance, your LR was -60 and u used it on a mob that had 100 res. it would then have had 100-0,2*60= 88 res. no longer immune but still high res. it has often been criticised that infy/conviction does not work the same way (i.e. -60 on infy were -60, regardless if the monster was immune or already broken)

so is all they did now to ALIGN how they work and interact with the sunder charm so that infinity is not even stronger when used in conjunction?

the way I read the patch notes, I would assume that if a char is NOT wearing a sunder charm on their inventory at the same time, conviction/infinity will still take away a fixed % res off of the monster's res.

Otherwise, what is the point of having -%res skills if the number shown on the skill tree is not what the skill actually does, in any situation?



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Quote (Bugeater @ Oct 3 2022 09:06pm)
10k blizz + 9k ib vs -100 res @ 8 frames per attack on every monster in the game

compared to

30k lite vs 25res @ 12 frames per attack on lite immune monsters

wanna run those numbers? + blizz sorc can now comfortably run ubers, there is zero reason to every make another build


this
that guy doesn't know how to play blizz sorc
I ran it pre 2.5 and p5+ chaos was very easy
blizz+ frozen orb with good gear u'd only need like 3 points in CM
so you can max both

This post was edited by escroto on Oct 3 2022 02:08pm
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Quote (Bugeater @ Oct 3 2022 10:06pm)
10k blizz + 9k ib vs -100 res @ 8 frames per attack on every monster in the game

compared to

30k lite vs 25res @ 12 frames per attack on lite immune monsters

wanna run those numbers? + blizz sorc can now comfortably run ubers, there is zero reason to every make another build


Dude, actually even without sunder charmn, light sorc one shot the whole screen with 1 or max 2 CL, and 2-3 CL for light immune (break with infi)

Blizzard miss sometimes, because of walls, immobile targets, have cooldown and can't snipe 2 pack which are closed. It's slow as fc

You could do 1 trillon of damage with blizzard, even with, it will still be slower than end game light sorc
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Oct 3 2022 02:10pm
Just delete the stupid charms and start over with a better idea.
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Oct 3 2022 02:11pm
Quote (delicinq @ 3 Oct 2022 22:10)
Just delete the stupid charms and start over with a better idea.


xD
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Quote (ajnag @ Oct 3 2022 09:08pm)
Dude, actually even without sunder charmn, light sorc one shot the whole screen with 1 or max 2 CL, and 2-3 CL for light immune (break with infi)

Blizzard miss sometimes, because of walls, immobile targets, have cooldown and can't snipe 2 pack which are closed. It's slow as fc

You could do 1 trillon of damage with blizzard, even with, it will still be slower than end game light sorc


even if it's a bit better does it justify spending the 2 ber runes?
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Oct 3 2022 02:12pm
Quote (ajnag @ 3 Oct 2022 15:08)
Dude, actually even without sunder charmn, light sorc one shot the whole screen with 1 or max 2 CL, and 2-3 CL for light immune (break with infi)

Blizzard miss sometimes, because of walls, immobile targets, have cooldown and can't snipe 2 pack which are closed. It's slow as fc

You could do 1 trillon of damage with blizzard, even with, it will still be slower than end game light sorc


chain... :rofl:

ok, 10k max (5k avg) vs 20 res @ 12 fpa

sure, it works fine in p1-3, but literally any build works fine in p1 at this point
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Quote (escroto @ Oct 3 2022 10:11pm)
even if it's a bit better does it justify spending the 2 ber runes?


Of course it is.
It's part of the game to make end game characters.

But play as you wish, stay with your occulus, shako, tri-tal, obediance/insight merc with tal mask for ever, i don't care
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