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Nov 6 2021 02:00pm
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 6 2021 08:42pm)
the video of this streamer has some inaccurate info provide by Aaron, but understandable, bcuz we're still gathering info about how d2r works.

the wrong info was saying the old breakpoints remains, now we know some bps changed (thats why ppl reported odd bps)
the right info was saying we hade new breakpoints over the previous old limit (thats part was much more easy to know, just put shaels to see..)

d2 calc'd frames rounded up, so any xx,00 frame would get worse frame
d2r calc'd frames precisely, so any xx,00 frame will actually work!

if you need explanation / proof of not only new breakpoints but some other changed too, check this thread,
i explained about this: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89315293&f=148&p=589693372#p589693372

besides that, the img the streamer showed for laying trap have almost all ias need and frames correct
but the 5 fpa laying trap he used eias 168, this is wrong for d2r, 5 fpa laying trap is 167, so
if you check the img you will see the need of 480 ias% to him achieve 5 fpa, the right answer
is eias 167, actually the streamer would need 'only' 457% ias to achieve 5 fpa

idk if this calc he used has more inaccuracies, but if we have one like img he showed we should be careful to use the old old calc too :P

but thoro why i should care?
the actual calc shows 42%ias needed to achieve 9 fpa laying trap with pb (-30 wsm)
now for d2r you can actually use 40% ias to reach 9 fpa laying trap with pb(-30 wsm)

you see more proof video on the link above.

example now you can achieve 5 fpa smite with only 46% ias (pb + fana aura 27)
if you try use the old calc / formula rounding up you will get 48%, this is wrong, the
video on the link show 46% ias for smite in d2r, peace


got any test/calc for zek table plz? with a pb
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Nov 6 2021 02:00pm
Just finished watching the video

Can't believe the game is released in this state. As I said before, still in open beta so

:rofl:
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Nov 6 2021 02:02pm
Quote (Morbid-EW @ Nov 6 2021 02:13pm)
Out of morbid curiosity I would be interested to see what a Bowazon with Faith Demon Crossbow and tons of IAS gear could accomplish


ba dum tss
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Nov 6 2021 02:04pm
So more importantly than all this bickering about stupid shit, what's up with the new breakpoints?

For example:

With a Bowazon, what we’re looking at realistically with gear is a maximum of 165% IAS off non-weapon gear “not counting the bow used”, and then a maximum of 205% IAS on javside “not counting the javelins” if it had a 4os shield with 4x 15% IAS in it.

The gear setup would look like this:

45% IAS helm
4os 60% IAS armor
Nosferatu or Goldwrap 10% IAS
Sigon Glove & Boot combo 30% IAS
Cat’s Eye or Highlord’s 20% IAS
Add 60% more IAS if javside using a 4os shield with 60% IAS socketed

The normal Amazon breakpoints for Hydra and Grand Matron are 150% IAS for 8fpa and then 295% IAS for 7fpa. If there is a level 13, 14, or 15 Fanat Aura from a Faith, those breakpoints drop down to 50% IAS for 8fpa and 95% IAS for 7fpa.

So I’m curious, if anyone cares to load up a hero editor and test, what the breakpoints are beyond 7fpa, for Hydra & Grand Matron with a level 13, 14, or 15 Fanat Aura attached to it.

~ Thanks in advance for anyone who cares to test this.


This post was edited by TSBoyer on Nov 6 2021 02:06pm
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Nov 6 2021 02:04pm
honestly i wouldn't mind things being changed up a bit, would be interesting to have some new builds. in regards to d2 being balanced and perfect the way it is i'm not really so sure about that, there's a whole slew of builds that are unviable for anything more than pvm
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Nov 6 2021 02:04pm
You just need to play d2r for the nostalgic factor. It's a great looking D2 remake. I'd say take each charclass through hell and be done with it. As I see it, there is no point gearing up for PvP. No more wsg'ing to escape stunlocks, namelock is weird, autoaim on skills like charge are completely broken when playing with a controller (it's basicly full screen autoaim). Just don't take it too seriously. The fun is to be had in the journey not in the destination.
Many of you guys need to get off this forum, just play an untwinked character from normal to hell instead of trade trade trade for some virtual coins. Lot of you make diablo feel like a job.

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Nov 6 2021 02:10pm
not sure if something can be more beta than posting a mrbanana video
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i'm in contact with other users who are much more smarter than me, bcuz all math i did
manually, some users here use maple or even excel to run the formulas, so for a proper
non manual table we need those guys who know the apps to make a new or update the
old one calc..
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Nov 6 2021 02:26pm
So obv this hits pvp, but I'm curious to see how this could affect MF builds.

Since ofc, most mf builds are casters classically.
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Nov 6 2021 02:33pm
Quote (TSBoyer @ Nov 6 2021 01:04pm)
So more importantly than all this bickering about stupid shit, what's up with the new breakpoints?

For example:

With a Bowazon, what we’re looking at realistically with gear is a maximum of 165% IAS off non-weapon gear “not counting the bow used”, and then a maximum of 205% IAS on javside “not counting the javelins” if it had a 4os shield with 4x 15% IAS in it.

The gear setup would look like this:

45% IAS helm
4os 60% IAS armor
Nosferatu or Goldwrap 10% IAS
Sigon Glove & Boot combo 30% IAS
Cat’s Eye or Highlord’s 20% IAS
Add 60% more IAS if javside using a 4os shield with 60% IAS socketed

The normal Amazon breakpoints for Hydra and Grand Matron are 150% IAS for 8fpa and then 295% IAS for 7fpa. If there is a level 13, 14, or 15 Fanat Aura from a Faith, those breakpoints drop down to 50% IAS for 8fpa and 95% IAS for 7fpa.

So I’m curious, if anyone cares to load up a hero editor and test, what the breakpoints are beyond 7fpa, for Hydra & Grand Matron with a level 13, 14, or 15 Fanat Aura attached to it.

~ Thanks in advance for anyone who cares to test this.



This would be pretty interesting. Also worth testing the even faster bows like mat to see if you can get 2-3 bps above the previous limit
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