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Oct 1 2021 05:56am
Quote (coelomate1970 @ Oct 1 2021 06:37am)
I've done extensive testing, it's pretty straightforward:

-ANY SOURCE- of -enemy resistance can now break immunities at 20% effectiveness just like conviction and lower resist. When it breaks them, it doesn't remove the "Cold Immune" text which is odd/buggy.

Easy to confirm: throw any cold facet into your gear and go to the cold plains, where the cold immunes have exactly 100% cold res. You'll scratch them with cold damage even if using a single facet and no cold mastery!

Here's the "gotcha": most monsters that are cold immune have stupidly high cold res. Probably because when balancing Blizzard was considering Cold Mastery and didn't want it to roll hell if it broke immunities.

So even with maxed cold mastery there are many, many monsters you won't pierce.

Average monster lightning resists is much lower, that's why infinity/griffons do so well.

Oblivion Knights have like 180% cold res, for example. You'll never break that.


Thank you for your contribution. I always wondered why cold immunities in D2 were always absolutely huge.
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Oct 1 2021 09:23am
Oblivion knights have 180% cold resistance.

All -% resistance skills and modifiers only work 20% as effective (meaning the -% resistance is multiplied by 1/5) to immune monsters.

Just to bring down the oblivion knight's cold resistance down to 99%, you would need -405% to cold resistance.

Just by adding up infinity and level 60 cold mastery: -85% (infinity) + -315% (cold mastery) = -400% cold resistance (now the Oblivion Knight's 180% cold resistance has been lowered to 100%, which is still cold immune).

Getting level 60 cold mastery virtually impossible in diablo 2. And feasibly obtaining enough cold facets would probably not be enough either.

You'd probably need at least -450% cold resistance to bring down the Oblivion Knight cold resistance down to 90%.

EVEN THEN, it would still take several frozen orbs or blizzards to kill it.

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Oct 1 2021 09:36am
Quote (x5tpc @ Oct 1 2021 11:23am)
Oblivion knights have 180% cold resistance.

All -% resistance skills and modifiers only work 20% as effective (meaning the -% resistance is multiplied by 1/5) to immune monsters.

Just to bring down the oblivion knight's cold resistance down to 99%, you would need -405% to cold resistance.

Just by adding up infinity and level 60 cold mastery: -85% (infinity) + -315% (cold mastery) = -400% cold resistance (now the Oblivion Knight's 180% cold resistance has been lowered to 100%, which is still cold immune).

Getting level 60 cold mastery virtually impossible in diablo 2. And feasibly obtaining enough cold facets would probably not be enough either.

You'd probably need at least -450% cold resistance to bring down the Oblivion Knight cold resistance down to 90%.

EVEN THEN, it would still take several frozen orbs or blizzards to kill it.

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I just put a firewall under it and it dead instantly 🤷‍♂️
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Oct 1 2021 09:38am
Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.


I've noticed I can damage cold immunes, but it's terrible damage
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Oct 1 2021 09:38am
I'm hardly knowledgeable on the subject but I can say that I do in fact damage some "cold immune" mobs with my cold spells, despite having no facets or infinity. Not all, but some.
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Oct 1 2021 09:39am
Quote (Rabid_Chocobo @ Oct 1 2021 08:38am)
I'm hardly knowledgeable on the subject but I can say that I do in fact damage some "cold immune" mobs with my cold spells, despite having no facets or infinity. Not all, but some.


Yes, a1 and a2 monsters in hell can easily have cold immunity broken without godly gear.

Try act 3-5 and let me know how it goes hehe
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Yes, a1 and a2 monsters in hell can easily have cold immunity broken without godly gear.

Try act 3-5 and let me know how it goes hehe


I can damage pindle when he spawns with cold immune
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Oct 1 2021 09:46am
Quote (Rabid_Chocobo @ Oct 1 2021 08:44am)
I can damage pindle when he spawns with cold immune


Pindle in hell has 50% cold resistance.

With Cold Enchanted, he'll have 125% cold resistance. Easily breakable with more than -125% cold resistance. -125% cold resistance = -25% cold resistance to immunes.

-125% cold resistance => -25% cold resistance to Pindle with cold enchant: +125% -25% = 100% cold. So need more than -125% cold resistance to bring below 100% to do damage.

This post was edited by x5tpc on Oct 1 2021 09:48am
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Quote (x5tpc @ Oct 1 2021 11:46am)
Pindle in hell has 50% cold resistance.

With Cold Enchanted, he'll have 125% cold resistance. Easily breakable with more than -125% cold resistance. -125% cold resistance = -25% cold resistance to immunes.

-125% cold resistance => -25% cold resistance to Pindle with cold enchant: +125% -25% = 100% cold. So need more than -125% cold resistance to bring below 100% to do damage.


I have also killed cold immune pindle in hell
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I have also killed cold immune pindle in hell


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