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Mar 16 2026 08:25am
They have the same damage output on average, but weapon 2 does at least 150 damage per hit, which makes it the better choice against most enemies for the reason I explained in my previous post.

At least you used two weapons with the same average this time*lol


So, as I said, the first example was in the simplest form

and the context is my main post, and if people understood, don't need to give any damn example
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Mar 16 2026 08:27am
So, as I said, the first example was in the simplest form

and the context is my main post, and if people understood, don't need to give any damn example


You are just talking bs dude.

Your first "example" was comparing a 10-20 Weapon to a 19-20 Weapon. Do you at least now see how insanely stupid that is?

Also whats "forgotten trivia" here? Do you think that D2 is special in that regard or what?
Heres a little secret: EVERY game ever made in the history of mankind works exactly that way. Okay? You got that?

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Mar 16 2026 08:33am
When smarter people explained your point for you. You still haven’t made a coherent point or used an appropriate example. :bonk:


i think you just referred to me as a “smarter [person]”

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i think you just referred to me as a “smarter [person]”

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I was hoping you’d notice
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Mar 16 2026 10:28am
Lol
Sorry mate but your exemple in first post is the worst possible
Though having a higher min for same average is indeed good in pvm

But it has been known since 20+ years
Thanks for contributing though
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Mar 16 2026 10:35am
It just means, IF

#1. 10 min dmg - 20 max dmg = 15average dmg and a succesful hit is guaranteed 10 min damage

#2. 19 min dmg - 20 max dmg = 19.5 average dmg and a succesful hit is guaranteed 19 min damage

over several hits #2 will win



The choice depends on the skill. HIgher average damage is higher average damage. The question is the frequency of attacks. Low min damage means very high burst max damage for skills like zeal or WW. For ES you want high min damage because the fpa is low.

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Mar 16 2026 10:42am
If min dmg is better than max dmg, does that mean min dmg is better than ds/crit? Because ds/crit dmg is basically just max dmg with extra steps.
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Mar 16 2026 10:49am
If oneshot probability is the main factor, higher min dmg (for the same average) isn't always better.
It actually all depends on the mob's life pool, which is hard to control anyway (as a variable):

life : 2
oneshot proba - raw dmg 1-5 : 80%
oneshot proba - raw dmg 2-4 : 100%

life : 5
oneshot proba - raw dmg 1-5 : 20%
oneshot proba - raw dmg 2-4 : 0%

Interestingly, if life = avg dmg (exactly), higher min dmg can be better:

life : 3
oneshot proba - raw dmg 1-5 : 60%
oneshot proba - raw dmg 2-4 : 67% (up-rounded)

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Mar 16 2026 10:55am
what will really be funny is if they patch in durability loss to ES weapons, 90% of warlocks gonna be using worthless weapons lmao
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Mar 16 2026 03:08pm
If oneshot probability is the main factor, higher min dmg (for the same average) isn't always better.
It actually all depends on the mob's life pool, which is hard to control anyway (as a variable):

life : 2
oneshot proba - raw dmg 1-5 : 80%
oneshot proba - raw dmg 2-4 : 100%

life : 5
oneshot proba - raw dmg 1-5 : 20%
oneshot proba - raw dmg 2-4 : 0%

Interestingly, if life = avg dmg (exactly), higher min dmg can be better:

life : 3
oneshot proba - raw dmg 1-5 : 60%
oneshot proba - raw dmg 2-4 : 67% (up-rounded)


I think whats more important than the oneshot probability is the fact that for leaching purposes, sometimes it's necessary to do high dmg to basically refill that life, for instance against ubers. For an extreme example, if your damage is like 1-10k, and you roll 1 twice, you can get deleted without significant life leach as you get hit the second or third time. If your damage is like 4999-5001, even for the same avg damage, we can all see how that allows you to consistent leach your life back between hits from an uber
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