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Mar 5 2026 02:55pm
yes everyone just loves prioritizing for full-game multi-hours 8 player farm, the true spirit of d2
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Mar 5 2026 03:04pm
I mean… gheed enigma war traveler shako and 7 mf sc’s and you’re pretty much there

It’s not gonna change a thing


I dont realy use gheed or war travs in p8. I’m aiming for max dps and survivability, so this would allow me to do that while effectively maxing out my MF.
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Mar 5 2026 03:08pm
Funny thing, I tried it and 3 of my first 4 items were uniques, right after doing the ritual.
It felt like godly MF.
The rest of the game felt like a lucky game with a bit more rares and uniques or sets but nothing crazy like the first items.
Gotta note that my base MF is 596, so even if the first 3 uniques really felt like there was a big change, after that sometimes I even wondered if the effect didnt wear off for whatever reason (but I doubt it did considering how much more uniques sets and rares I got).
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Mar 5 2026 03:30pm
i prefer the chicken fight in rogue encampment.
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Mar 5 2026 03:43pm
its gonna change everything i will tz full game and finally find that sunder


Good luck finding full game !
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Mar 5 2026 03:53pm
Good luck finding full game !


i only play p1 need the odds stacked against me for max pain and suffering
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Mar 5 2026 03:54pm
So basically, the ritual gives you a very slight increase on the very low odds of dropping a sunder from the normal TC (when a gc is rolled as unique) but does not change your odds of rolling sunders from the herald's TC.
The ritual as close to no incidence on your odds beyond heralds lvl 1-3, which is why you run full TZ games, ritual or not.
And that very small increase you can potentially get from the ritual is probably resulting in less sunders per time played rather than just skipping that step.
Nothing new was learned here.
Same old d2 influencers cleaning the dust off of old topics cuz they have nothing new to come up with to get views.

The conclusion is
if you run p1 without using shards, your odds of finding a sunder are horrible
if you run p1 to p8 and use 1 shard per game, you prob can get to lvl 5 heralds, but you're done once it starts to be rewarding as all following heralds in the next 4 acts would have been lvl 5
if you want good odds of finding sunders, you need to set the whole game in TZ, and ideally on higher player count, and you can further increase your odds with a horker in your team
mf has very low incidence on all this
running coordinated p8 is not accessible to everyone
running for as long as it takes to clear full games is not accessible to everyone
not being able to combine both the above means most sunders will come from either bots, or teams of human nerds without a life

But now... if you value more sets/uniques over bases, then performing the ritual could be worth it for you if you plan on doing a full game clear. Not a big deal tho. But I guess that the addition of a few new valuable uniques (new ones and old ones) has slightly shifted the effective value of having more mf%.

In the current state of the game, it gives a huge advantage to warlocks who can easily deal with immunes.
It also keeps LoD farming alive, for the purpose of having much easier access to the old sunders.

IMO, the difficulty of obtaining a sunder as it is right now would be nice IF no class was able to deal so easily with immunes as the warlock, and IF the old sunders couldn't be converted, because it would force team play.
But as it is right now, it only creates huge gaps between classes and players. And instead of encouraging diversity and team play, it forces very strict meta strategies that are only accessible to bot farms or dedicated teams, while solo players (even those willing to play in open games) are left behind.


this says everything that needs to be said on this topic.
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Mar 5 2026 04:14pm
what no one answers is if the ritual works only on the person looking at the souls, or what if 2 people are there at the same time or more. There is no way to check for that mf number on screen.

This post was edited by DevilPK on Mar 5 2026 04:14pm
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Mar 5 2026 04:34pm
what no one answers is if the ritual works only on the person looking at the souls, or what if 2 people are there at the same time or more. There is no way to check for that mf number on screen.


You check by slaying monsters :thumbsup:
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Mar 5 2026 08:58pm
yes everyone just loves prioritizing for full-game multi-hours 8 player farm, the true spirit of d2


:rofl:
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