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#41
Jan 22 2026 09:41am


impale offers some buggy ass shit though, often when playing impale vs impale we both just lag and "teleport" all over the place

here it seems like this dude either is just unable to smite, or the animation just doesnt show up on my screen?

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jan 22 2026 09:43am
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Jan 22 2026 09:45am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ 22 Jan 2026 16:40)
This is when riphook comes in, as I described in the 2nd part of my previous post :p

He will use antidotes, so your plague javs ain’t gonna win you the fight.
If you are forced to go toe to toe with impale vs smite, while both are bming with slows, you are guaranteed to lose.

Cleglaw + riphook = max slow already
Impale + KB = easy escape mechanism
55% OW from riphook will work wonders over time
And you don’t need to flee
Stand your ground, king of the moor
Once your slows are applied, you can just side step attacks
Impale + KB
Quick GA poke even at close range to keep that OW active
A psn jav from time to time to force an antidote
Your opponent will either stay until death or run to town
And you will stand victorious, alone in the moor

IMO a well built tribrid zon is THE ultimate BM build.
It requires on ton of gear swap, understanding each matchup and how to adapt on the spot, both gear-wise and your playstyle.


i guess true but only having 50% slow on a bow side thats blockable is probably not going to cut it, it can be hard to hit a maxblock smiter with guided arrow, especially if u dont have high ias frames

i'd rather just throw a lightning bolt thats unblockable to 100% hit him xD plus with the riphook/cleg setup you dont have max slow on your impale hits, which is also kind of a shame

i tried the bow setup and didnt rly like it, not to mention i cant use both titan+doom that way so i either have to give up third slow source or my whole plague/impale setup

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#43
Jan 22 2026 09:56am


poor guy thought the impale stuff was lag from his side ^^ its true it makes you teleport/lag all over the place if you get hit by impale

i'm having a blast with this build, guy has a phaseblade setup and is slowed into oblivion
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#44
Jan 22 2026 10:11am
alright 2 last ones just to showcase the build a bit:

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#45
Jan 22 2026 10:12am


in this last video at the end you can see me getting hit without there being a smite animation

at some point its so slow it just doesnt show an animation anymore on my screen, only a very very very slow one on the enemies' screen

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#46
Jan 22 2026 10:20am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jan 22 2026 10:40am)
This is when riphook comes in, as I described in the 2nd part of my previous post :p

He will use antidotes, so your plague javs ain’t gonna win you the fight.
If you are forced to go toe to toe with impale vs smite, while both are bming with slows, you are guaranteed to lose.

Cleglaw + riphook = max slow already
Impale + KB = easy escape mechanism
55% OW from riphook will work wonders over time
And you don’t need to flee
Stand your ground, king of the moor
Once your slows are applied, you can just side step attacks
Impale + KB
Quick GA poke even at close range to keep that OW active
A psn jav from time to time to force an antidote
Your opponent will either stay until death or run to town
And you will stand victorious, alone in the moor

IMO a well built tribrid zon is THE ultimate BM build.
It requires on ton of gear swap, understanding each matchup and how to adapt on the spot, both gear-wise and your playstyle.


a good telesmiter will be on top of you smiting before the guided arrows even land and you'll be forced to eat 2 smites to impale him once, he'll then tele out to reset, wait 30 seconds for slow to wear off then repeat and 2 more smites you dead as a zon :P

sadly bm zon can't beat a good bm vt

Quote (Stefbef @ Jan 22 2026 11:12am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LILXBOtRkCE

in this last video at the end you can see me getting hit without there being a smite animation

at some point its so slow it just doesnt show an animation anymore on my screen, only a very very very slow one on the enemies' screen


fun to test slow but mjolnir is one of the worst smiters out there so anything beats him :P
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#47
Jan 22 2026 10:23am
Quote (losm @ 22 Jan 2026 17:20)
a good telesmiter will be on top of you smiting before the guided arrows even land and you'll be forced to eat 2 smites to impale him once, he'll then tele out to reset, wait 30 seconds for slow to wear off then repeat and 2 more smites you dead as a zon :P

sadly bm zon can't beat a good bm vt



fun to test slow but mjolnir is one of the worst smiters out there so anything beats him :P


lmao fair point

i mean i agree a good bm smiter will beat the crap out of this zon, also he will get a lot of frames back if he uses a 60 ias shield

i think if i'd use my cham 15/40 coa + 60 ias shield on my v/t with cleglaw arach alone i would beat the crap out of a zon like this

but luckily enough not even 10% of the smiters seem to get the right setup vs this

plus smiter is my hardest opponent, most others are easy

like barb or other zon is a free win
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#48
Jan 22 2026 12:03pm
ias from items can't really offset stacked slows. As I was saying ias caps out at +75% EIAS from +200% IAS. Most builds are already hovering around 60-67-75% eias anyway. If they had 67% eias and stacked some extra ias items maybe they're in the 72-75% range, but when you're packing 150% slow what does that matter? -83% vs -78%
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#49
Jan 22 2026 12:05pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 22 Jan 2026 19:03)
ias from items can't really offset stacked slows. As I was saying ias caps out at +75% EIAS from +200% IAS. Most builds are already hovering around 60-67-75% eias anyway. If they had 67% eias and stacked some extra ias items maybe they're in the 72-75% range, but when you're packing 150% slow what does that matter? -83% vs -78%


i agree that it cant ''offset'' it

but it does change a lot tbh, lets say you have just 40 ias grief pb cleglaw setup or also add in a 60 ias shield

with tripple source slow:



25 frames per attack or 16 is a big difference imo from just a 60 ias shield

so ias doesnt offset it but can still be very important
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Jan 22 2026 02:09pm
Quote (Stefbef @ Jan 22 2026 12:05pm)
i agree that it cant ''offset'' it
but it does change a lot tbh, lets say you have just 40 ias grief pb cleglaw setup or also add in a 60 ias shield
with tripple source slow:
https://i.imgur.com/06zhWKO.png
25 frames per attack or 16 is a big difference imo from just a 60 ias shield
so ias doesnt offset it but can still be very important


yeah the difference from 97% eias to 121% eias means after -150% slow you're at -53% vs -29% and on a 12 fpd smite that maths out to 25 vs 16 fpa.
Theres asymptotic scaling between 0% and -85% eias but in functional terms any attack with 20+ frames might as well be disabled entirely because it will never hit

Of course there's still a question of whether calculators or even the ingame displayed vs actual logic are in sync when it comes to slowing eias below 0%, because the examples sure looked glitchy

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