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Mar 27 2025 11:37am
“Attention seeking” XD

You know I rarely ever mention anything about what makes me so deeply informed on anything d2 related.
Whenever I give up hint like you say, all I get is this type of comment anyway.

I have nothing to prove. I don’t feel the need at all tbh.
If I gave up any more info that could lead to identifying me irl, and I have way better things to do than to deal with the hate that would come with anyone seeing who is the real person behind this jsp username.

Another reason I’m not willing to disclose further data is simply because there is many sensitive user related info that I would need to parse from an archived database so huge it’s simply… not something I’m willing to do just for the satisfaction of some, or to shut the mouth of others.


pm me your true identity, I’m curious

i can keep a secret
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Mar 27 2025 12:06pm
“Attention seeking” XD

You know I rarely ever mention anything about what makes me so deeply informed on anything d2 related.
Whenever I give up hint like you say, all I get is this type of comment anyway.

I have nothing to prove. I don’t feel the need at all tbh.
If I gave up any more info that could lead to identifying me irl, and I have way better things to do than to deal with the hate that would come with anyone seeing who is the real person behind this jsp username.

Another reason I’m not willing to disclose further data is simply because there is many sensitive user related info that I would need to parse from an archived database so huge it’s simply… not something I’m willing to do just for the satisfaction of some, or to shut the mouth of others.


tldr more big shot bullshit

I'll donate a shako and 5 fg if you s/s your logs from the period where you claim to have had 2 million fg in and out. blur them as you see fit - wouldn't want to compromise the integrity of your clients yada yada
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Mar 27 2025 05:05pm
The MF Files.
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Mar 27 2025 05:29pm
charms -> as soon as everyone got their sunders, you really better get a chance at any of the many potential gg magic charms rather than to get another fucking -82% pOiSoN sUnDeR


sunders are in their own drop pool. a charm that could roll magic can never roll sunder. the only unique charm that can be rolled for is gheeds

as for the topic of the post, thought it was common knowledge that MF is a secondary stat. kill speed has been and will always be more improtant than more MF

This post was edited by Kabryxis on Mar 27 2025 05:38pm
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Mar 27 2025 05:34pm
I've gone the way of ignoring mf entirely. I only prioritize damage and survivability now.

I recently spent hours putting together a for trade list of all the uniques on my mules. Many bumps in and I've made around 50fg.

I make more fg with much less effort by hoarding useful bases and catching iso posts.

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mf is a scam
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Mar 27 2025 10:19pm
Yeah in sp mf is good.
My statement is greatly influenced by the jsp market and fast fluctuations in economy, as well as market saturation for common gear.

There’s many things I’d like to answer back to Brianpeppers about his last statements.
I sadly just don’t have time right now as this will require another wall of text lol

But for now, just to answer the “it lacks statistical evidence”…
Oh trust me it doesn’t.
I may not be allowed to fully discuss this here, as some subjects are just banned.
But let’s just say I distributed for years 3 of the most popular “banned subject” in the history of d2, which included a data collection fallback for anyone who used it.
With an evolutive pickit list.
The users were free to use whatever mf% they wanted.
Data was collected and sorted by mf% vs stashed items vs estimated value per stashed item.
I do not lack stats.
I do not just expose my subjective opinion on the subject.
This is backed by billions of samples ;)


No rush, it took me quite a while to say what I said. If you really have access to data like that then it'd be hard to argue with you. I'll admit my game mechanic knowledge is far from perfect which is why I asked about drops from normal monsters. Even with the formula idk how a 0 for qualityfactor impacts drops.

What do you mean by evolutive pickit list? In 08 the list was just a notepad doc you could edit to modify the parameters of what you wanted. Evolutive like it gets more selective as a season progresses or something? That sounds overly complicated

Also how could you possibly have a meaningful estimate for every item? Even if you had a pretty good estimate for easy items like runes the most valuable items would be almost impossible to even semi-accurately estimate (imo).

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Mar 28 2025 03:44am
This thread is an interesting discussion and the trolling is unnecessary and pointless.
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Mar 28 2025 05:39am
This post is the most interesting start for my day! Always nice to read science from Sins! :)
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Mar 28 2025 09:01am
Good post. It's high time MF gets what's coming for it.
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Mar 28 2025 09:26am
I'll be honest alot of this is tldr but I love you here's my comment.

With MF, it's simply all about the number of games you do.

Normal MF run is andy, trav, meph, frigid Shenk & Eldrich, pindle. Repeat. Do this a few hours and you gear up. But yes... I will say nowadays it's harder to gear up and collect wealth in D2 now.. maybe because of my work schedule.

When I came back to D2 in 2023 I geared up from twitch streamers donations helping me out. Lots of good folks doing live streams.


#1 players shouldn't have any issues gearing up
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