Would you happen to know the damage diff from going full dex vs vita?

this is true (actually I think there exists some crazy rare jewel with 30ed/min/max dmg that's even better) but I prefer utility of 2zon/2os/20fcr/adds circ over a jewelers circ. In which case, the optimal jewel in WF is 15ias/40ed

I don't but I can respec and check for you. It's losing like +500 dex which mean +500 ed loss.



I did 2os rare helm before too but didn't like it. The skills don't do much. ed and damage can't be used in helm because of the ed bug. I just like flat out more max dmg or ed from 3os helms.

The optimal would be 1540 on wf and 2 1515 and 1 30max jool on helm.



Dont disrespect Baal like that!



You are correct. My 4520120 magus diadem in on another acct so just used this one.

But yes for WF zon, 120ed more valuable!

The benefits of 2os circ is less tangible for sure, but +2 skill also increase AR/survivability through passives, and slightly boosts strafe ed.

If using a 3os circ, then an ideal rare jewel > 40ed 15maxer on the WF socket:

That's unnecessary min maxing on WF build. She's got more than enough max dmg. Some more or less don't make much of a difference. You get as much ed as possible from all sources so I'd stick as many 40ed/15ias jewels as possible everywhere. Inventory of a WF zon should be full with 20life/5@ or 3/20/20 or 36ar/20life/2dex small charms.



On another note, instead of pecular microoptimizing. Vizer on the left Seal and Venom Lord uniques often turn up physical immune. A 10% bone break works wonders. Together with atma's proc their PR drops to -5% in an instant then they melt away. You can then leave magic arrow at 1 point and dump the rest into multi to pump strafe even more.

This post was edited by babun1024 on May 26 2023 11:04am

You do not need more survivability nor AR on pvm zon, that's the thing. You just need flat out more dmg.

You need 75ias for 8 frame with WF and BoS proc from hustle

So you have 20 from glove 20 from wf.

You gotta get 35 from wf socket and helm.

So actually the best case scenario is 40ed 15max on WF and 45ias 120ed on Magus helm since you can't mix dmg on helm with rare jewel anyway.

I would have started with 15ias 40ed on WF and spec the rest but I only had 40ed 15max wf in stash.

But if you look it again, using 4520120 on that WF is actually the best possible damage

more AR = more dmg. more d/a/e = more standing still and spamming arrows. also, the ideal circ can get 30ed + 20 dex, which is another 50%ed.

if you look again, 40/15 max does less avg dmg than the rare jewel

Rare jewels cannot spawn with increased attack speed. You'd also need to 40/15ias in the WF to reach 8fpa with only a 2os rare helm with 2x 40/15ias.

The only rare helm that outperforms a Jewelers 3x 40/15ias helm with 40/15max in WF would be next to impossible to acquire:
20 dex
30 enhanced damage
20 fcr
5% bonus to AR
99% bonus to AR (based on character level)
2sockets socketed with 40/15ias

Without the AR bonus it actually does less than the Jewelers setup. Not worth it.

In theory AR is incredibly important for WF DPS so that your hit chance versus everything is at 95%. In practice, probably not noticeable.

ok? i prefaced my statement with "if usng 3o circ". and it's factual that the rare jewel outperforms 40/15max in WF in that scenario.

It's full dex spec and have points into penetrate so it's already 95%!

That godly 2os rare helm would be like 100k fg helm.. more like a theory crafting for min maxing haha which isn't attainable for 99.9% of users.