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#341
Mar 2 2022 09:17pm
Quote (oscarmk @ Mar 2 2022 09:14pm)
Shapeshifting both bear and wolf were vastly underperforming, hard to find one in any game pvp or pve. Both need significant buffs, it seems Bear still needs more buffs. Both bear and wolf still need a passive FRW skill


if anything they nerfed bear with its horrendous attack speed now. I got on and tested and literally started laughing at his attack speed. but no lets buff zons which already more than make up pvp games

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#342
Mar 2 2022 09:30pm
Quote (LBproz @ Mar 3 2022 11:17am)
if anything they nerfed bear with its horrendous attack speed now. I got on and tested and literally started laughing at his attack speed. but no lets buff zons which already more than make up pvp games



Keep calm and continue testing. It’s still fresh. Maybe it’s not as bad. If it’s bad, I’m sure everyone would jump on it like before. PTR isn’t done yet!
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Mar 2 2022 09:40pm
Quote (Tarisus @ Mar 2 2022 09:30pm)
Keep calm and continue testing. It’s still fresh. Maybe it’s not as bad. If it’s bad, I’m sure everyone would jump on it like before. PTR isn’t done yet!


no they wont because fury got a buff and thats the only shifter class that matters apparently
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#344
Mar 2 2022 09:43pm
Quote (LBproz @ Mar 3 2022 11:40am)
no they wont because fury got a buff and thats the only shifter class that matters apparently


I'm pretty sure Blizzard is thinking, how the hell does a Bear attack faster than a Wolf when Wolf has Skill IAS. :thumbsup: It's likely that, they will continue buffing damage on Maul/Bear Form if enough complained instead of upping the speed on Bear.

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Mar 2 2022 09:45pm
Quote (Tarisus @ Mar 2 2022 09:43pm)
I'm pretty sure Blizzard is thinking, how the hell does a Bear attack faster than a Wolf when Wolf has Skill IAS. :thumbsup: It's likely that, they will continue buffing damage on Maul/Bear Form if enough complained instead of upping the speed on Bear.


how do you expect maul to perform in pvp if its a wind up skill
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#346
Mar 2 2022 10:30pm
Quote (LBproz @ Mar 3 2022 11:45am)
how do you expect maul to perform in pvp if its a wind up skill


Probably doesn't work.
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#347
Mar 2 2022 10:31pm
Quote (BakedHam @ Mar 2 2022 10:02pm)
So what are the new breakpoints for fury? Can someone give gear and weapon examples?

Old bp was 95 wep ias for 1hand and 75wep ias for 2 hand (counting -base speed as ias since thats basically how it functioned)

What does new look like?


ptr gear is shit so can't actually test well

i was hitting a new breakpoint of at least 4 fpa at 85ias from off weapon gear using botd war axe (botdz). werewolf lvl 28. dropping down to 65 off weapon gear ias dropped me down a breakpoint
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#348
Mar 2 2022 10:36pm
Quote (wendell @ Mar 2 2022 10:31pm)
ptr gear is shit so can't actually test well

i was hitting a new breakpoint of at least 4 fpa at 85ias from off weapon gear using botd war axe (botdz). werewolf lvl 28. dropping down to 65 off weapon gear ias dropped me down a breakpoint


Would it be like this?

1) 30ias weapon
2) 65ias werewolf
3) 55 off weapon ias

Total: 150ias = cap? It's not this linear is it?
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#349
Mar 2 2022 10:40pm
Quote (Brandoloni @ Mar 2 2022 11:36pm)
Would it be like this?

1) 30ias weapon
2) 65ias werewolf
3) 55 off weapon ias

Total: 150ias = cap? It's not this linear is it?


no, going from 65 to 85 was a noticeable breakpoints
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#350
Mar 2 2022 10:40pm
Quote (Brandoloni @ Mar 3 2022 12:36pm)
Would it be like this?

1) 30ias weapon
2) 65ias werewolf
3) 55 off weapon ias

Total: 150ias = cap? It's not this linear is it?


Weapon ias
Gear ias
Skill ias

Weapon and gear are the same now with new formula I believe. Skill ias is different. eias=(120*ias)/(120+ias). wsm, sias are both eias(they all have same units) but ias has to be converted into eias.

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