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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 27 2023 10:17pm)
2x mosaic +3 dragon tail / +3 phoenix strike greater talons
+2 sin / 20 fcr / 2x fire facet rare circlet
+2 sin / 17+ fcr fcr crafted ammy
enigma
+3 ma / 20 ias gloves
raven
fcr ring
arachs
rare myrmidon greaves
8x ma / life skillers
torch/anni/fire sunder
life/res scs
cta/35 spirit swap
act 2 holy freeze merc with infinity, coh, flickering flame
20 dragon tail, 20 tiger strike, 20 phoenix strike, 20 claws of thunder, 1 burst of speed / shadow warrior
dex to equip, all points strength


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respec'd to the dragon tail build and it's buggy af. a lot of desyncs or unregistered kicks when holding down the RMB, but seems to work better if manually clicking.

Google'd around and saw this has been an issue for over a year now? IMO this is unplayable online/hc, any suggestions to mitigate this?
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Mar 6 2023 11:29pm
I am running
3ps mosaics GT x2
Raven
Fcr ring with str and dex
Griff/Nightwing/Flick/gface
2/20/32life ammy
Arach
Upped gores/Dancers
Trangs
Enigma
Usual swaps

Full MA inv and the stables

Merc has infinity



The infinity upgrade is by far the biggest DMG boost. The rest is barely noticeable in terms of adding to clear speed. There is virtually no noticable diff on what helm I use, things just melt on p8.

In other words,
2Modaic+enigma+Infinity+w/e gear = 2mosaic+enigma+infinity+perf gear

20FoF, 20BoI, 20CoT, 20PS.
4 kicks DT, rest into fade and WB

My usual stacks are 3fire, 3ice, 3 Thunder, TS, CB, 2PS

I also tested a str build with maxed TS, the DMG from TS is still negligible in terms of adding to overall clear speed, since I think most of the DMG and clear speed comes from elemental fists and from PS.

This post was edited by Lionly29 on Mar 6 2023 11:45pm
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Quote (Lionly29 @ Mar 7 2023 12:29am)
I am running
3ps mosaics x2
Raven
Fcr ring with str and dex
Griff/Nightwing/Flick/gface
2/20/32life ammy
Arach
Upped gores/Dancers
Trangs
Enigma
Usual swaps

Full MA inv and the stables

Merc has infinity



The infinity upgrade is by far the biggest DMG boost. The rest is barely noticeable in terms of adding to clear speed. There is virtually no noticable diff on what helm I use, things just melt on p8.

In other words,
2Modaic+enigma+Infinity+w/e gear = 2mosaic+enigma+infinity+perf gear

20FoF, 20BoI, 20CoT, 20PS.
4 kicks DT, rest into fade and WB

My usual stacks are 3fire, 3ice, 3 Thunder, TS, CB, 2PS

I also tested a str build with maxed TS, the DMG from TS is still negligible in terms of adding to overall clear speed, since I think most of the DMG and clear speed comes from elemental fists and from PS.


You're running a ton of stacks (all of them it seems like); have you investigated what the optimal combination while taking into account kick frames and nexthitdelay? I tried for a bit and ended up with analysis paralysis;

with FoF, are you just not leeching whatsoever?

Also, when I ran 4 kicks, it really felt like overkill and locked you in place a beat longer than necessary. I preferred the flow of 3 kicks myself.

This post was edited by daanno2 on Mar 6 2023 11:50pm
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You're running a ton of stacks (all of them it seems like); have you investigated what the optimal combination while taking into account kick frames and nexthitdelay? with FoF, are you just not leeching whatsoever?

Also, when I ran 4 kicks, it really felt like overkill and locked you in place a beat longer than necessary. I preferred the flow of 3 kicks myself.


The main offender for NHD is CoT. I debated on taking out CoT just because of that, but the DMG that it adds is just too good. My work around is to use PS2 instead of 3. PS2 does wonders in softening everything in the room in a way that PS3 cannot.

With this set up, I don't find myself needing leech at all. The 1 stack of CS is mainly there for mana. The life per kill on the Enigma keeps me topped off most of the time.
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Quote (Lionly29 @ 7 Mar 2023 06:29)
I am running
3ps mosaics GT x2
Raven
Fcr ring with str and dex
Griff/Nightwing/Flick/gface
2/20/32life ammy
Arach
Upped gores/Dancers
Trangs
Enigma
Usual swaps

Full MA inv and the stables

Merc has infinity



The infinity upgrade is by far the biggest DMG boost. The rest is barely noticeable in terms of adding to clear speed. There is virtually no noticable diff on what helm I use, things just melt on p8.

In other words,
2Modaic+enigma+Infinity+w/e gear = 2mosaic+enigma+infinity+perf gear

20FoF, 20BoI, 20CoT, 20PS.
4 kicks DT, rest into fade and WB

My usual stacks are 3fire, 3ice, 3 Thunder, TS, CB, 2PS

I also tested a str build with maxed TS, the DMG from TS is still negligible in terms of adding to overall clear speed, since I think most of the DMG and clear speed comes from elemental fists and from PS.


im running this also now

its ridiculously strong, no need for any other setup for p8 leveling honestly

2 stacks phoenix and lightning based build with dtalon
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Mar 13 2023 01:01am
Okay, i might have missed something, but:
Can u have several charge up at once?
Like Tiger strike + Pheonix + cobra?

Cause then i could have a look upon my sin as well
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Quote (gel87 @ 13 Mar 2023 08:01)
Okay, i might have missed something, but:
Can u have several charge up at once?
Like Tiger strike + Pheonix + cobra?

Cause then i could have a look upon my sin as well


yes

you can have as many up as you want

but fists of fire damage ruins life steal so everything except that
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Quote (Stefbef @ 13 Mar 2023 08:50)
yes

you can have as many up as you want

but fists of fire damage ruins life steal so everything except that


If its at higher level like 30+ it convert all physical to fire damage, with less you still leech Massive ammount of hp :)
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Mar 13 2023 02:33am
Quote (godlytank @ 13 Mar 2023 09:12)
If its at higher level like 30+ it convert all physical to fire damage, with less you still leech Massive ammount of hp :)


That’s fair

I’d rather have the lifesteal though

The build absolutely obliterates anything in p8 anyway.

There’s not a pack I don’t oneshot right now in p8
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