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Jan 25 2022 04:28pm
Quote (Arkontas @ Jan 25 2022 04:26pm)
seems to be that. we tried pumped the sins fcr to 105, spammed a barbs leap, and used a max ias pb smiters smite and charge and it made every second fhr animation and knockback not do anything.


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Quote (Arkontas @ Jan 25 2022 04:20pm)
for sure, the take away i got from this was everything is DIFFERENT now. classes that used to be a bit op that relied on stun are nerfed, but everything else is just the rules of engagement changed a bit.

im a little bummed out that i spent so much on a VT, but honestly just having someone permanently stunned once I smited or charged them was pretty shit and I'm okay with having to change what type of paladin I play- or playing a better smiter which I honestly can't kek I'm a shitty smiter.

im glad charge or ww isnt mandatory now tho.


🤣 Oof

Man I have not used charge on a VT in like years haha
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Jan 25 2022 04:34pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Jan 25 2022 02:28pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02EwkGqyto


my VT after i sell his gear in 2.4 basically yea.
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Jan 25 2022 04:36pm
Quote (Arkontas @ Jan 25 2022 04:34pm)
my VT after i sell his gear in 2.4 basically yea.


I guess I just don't understand. Because based on the ptr, nothing really changed with a VT in gm play. 🤷‍♂️
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Jan 25 2022 04:43pm
Sounds bugged to me. Blizzard said *diminishing returns* not flat-out immunity as you described. You need to have better evidence before speculating this hard. Sins were still top-notch with WSG, so I don't think the alarm bells need to go off yet.
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Jan 25 2022 04:45pm
Quote (L8z. @ Jan 25 2022 04:43pm)
Sounds bugged to me. Blizzard said *diminishing returns* not flat-out immunity as you described. You need to have better evidence before speculating this hard. Sins were still top-notch with WSG, so I don't think the alarm bells need to go off yet.


maxim (zaicheik) also verified this with his own tests
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Quote (Verducci @ Jan 25 2022 02:36pm)
I guess I just don't understand. Because based on the ptr, nothing really changed with a VT in gm play. 🤷‍♂️


are you fighting other melee? if you smite someone the VT would just stunlock the jesus out of them with the swirl and you'd usually kill people unless you plaunched them into a puddle or something.

now you get one stun, and then that person has complete mobility when you try to do the next one so they can bail out immediately. that means you can't just get one lucky name lock and drop someone with a tele or charge lock anymore. They can get away.

If you can actually play a smiter and can tele smite over and over again without any issues that's fine. It will be like playing D2L but they have a stronger WSG.

If you're a fucking spastic like i am thats played an ele druid for like 15 years and went to VT in D2R, then this class is like unplayable for you now lol. I name lock by grabing the name and generally teleporting before i move my mouse to my feet. I'll swing it to my feet and start right clicking during the teleport animation because im using tornados or bone spear on my right click and it literally doesn't matter. With a VT you're going to swing at the air like a dumbshit. Most people who don't have a lot of practice name locking specifically the way a VT needs are going to have problems now.

Who cares though I'm just going to play my mains again which are bone and windy. I'm over it I didn't want to play sin, barb, or paly exclusively anyways.
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Jan 25 2022 04:50pm
Quote (L8z. @ Jan 25 2022 02:43pm)
Sounds bugged to me. Blizzard said *diminishing returns* not flat-out immunity as you described. You need to have better evidence before speculating this hard. Sins were still top-notch with WSG, so I don't think the alarm bells need to go off yet.


then disregard it or go test it yourself. i get an entire mindblast cast animation to move freely. i know what wsg was like in D2L, it didn't give me this much freedom.
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Jan 25 2022 05:02pm
Quote (Arkontas @ Jan 25 2022 04:45pm)
are you fighting other melee? if you smite someone the VT would just stunlock the jesus out of them with the swirl and you'd usually kill people unless you plaunched them into a puddle or something.

now you get one stun, and then that person has complete mobility when you try to do the next one so they can bail out immediately. that means you can't just get one lucky name lock and drop someone with a tele or charge lock anymore. They can get away.

If you can actually play a smiter and can tele smite over and over again without any issues that's fine. It will be like playing D2L but they have a stronger WSG.

If you're a fucking spastic like i am thats played an ele druid for like 15 years and went to VT in D2R, then this class is like unplayable for you now lol. I name lock by grabing the name and generally teleporting before i move my mouse to my feet. I'll swing it to my feet and start right clicking during the teleport animation because im using tornados or bone spear on my right click and it literally doesn't matter. With a VT you're going to swing at the air like a dumbshit. Most people who don't have a lot of practice name locking specifically the way a VT needs are going to have problems now.

Who cares though I'm just going to play my mains again which are bone and windy. I'm over it I didn't want to play sin, barb, or paly exclusively anyways.


I see what you're saying. This won't effect me with how I play VT in tournies. I can't recall the last time I tele smited or charged lol
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Jan 25 2022 05:04pm
Quote (Verducci @ Jan 25 2022 03:02pm)
I see what you're saying. This won't effect me with how I play VT in tournies. I can't recall the last time I tele smited or charged lol


are you fighting other VTs?
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