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Nov 8 2021 05:00pm
What happens if the assassin both uses BoS and equipt a beast weapon? Is the skill ias from fana just added to the BoS skill ias?

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Nov 8 2021 05:09pm
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 8 2021 04:10pm)
i'll show the eias table and how to calc to get the same result of -20 wsm claws as me =P

i have reports of fcr too, but only in hero editor single player of ppl with 700 fcr doing teleports really fast, but because the diminished returns is much more harder to achieve fcr bps than ias bps, so we can't get faster tps realistically speaking
but, in theory (speculation here), we can have new numbers for the same fcr, but i would need check the fcr formula

*** The Auto wsm change a lot, because with this we can achieve -50 wsm (GT+WF for example) wich is huge! I would be really glad if someone show in video just to get more credibility the affirmation! but ty for the reports guys.

i can make a sin table of ias, because legen posted a good eias table, so is viable to get more accurate numbers now. Well.. but is easier to teach how to calc the ias for yourself
1) You will have to choose fade or BoS
2) You will have to choose what will be your base claws (this is more important than +5 ls or +4 ls..)
3) you will have to choose auto wsm or nay


yeah people were saying that if fcr is broken the bps would not be achievable anyway, and that seems true.

but the thing with d2r rounding up or down differently, does that change the bps any?
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Nov 9 2021 01:12am
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 8 2021 12:13pm)
good table, but the 5 fpa and 4 fpa are wrong, just bcuz we can use eias 167 and eias 220 now

legen took the marvel. equation and used the maple app to do the calc, of this, i did manually and agree with legen

all credits to legen and marvel.


edit¹: with this eias table we can calc all sorts of ias needed!
edit²: answering Matt, now you can achieve 9 fpa with gt at 40% ias instead of old d2 42%ias


im using a double shael'd GT mainhand setup with another GT and it doesn't seem 9 frame

seems slightly slower than that
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Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 6 2021 02:32pm)
i couldn't edit more <_<

well with the "old" formula (still viable, but now when you find a eias w/ perfect xx,00 frames like 9, 7, 4, 3 and 1 frames for laying trap you must/won't round up)

so the olds calcs gave to us this:
Traps:
Eias: (120*(EIAS - Skill Ias + WSM)) / (120 - (EIAS - SkillIAS +WSM)
Frames: {16 / (1+(EIAS/100))-1}
{} = Round up

how to know the old frames: 16 / (1+(61/100))-1 = 8,93788... this would give us 9 frames (9fpa)
how to know the old ias needed: (120*(61 - 0 + -30)) / (120 - (61 - 0 +-30) = 41,79775... = 42% ias needed

So the "old calc" would give this EIAS table (just the relevant)
EIAS // frames
34 // 11
46 // 10
61 // 9
78 // 8
101 // 7
129 // 6
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Now for D2R:

All credits to @Marvel.
the "more accurate formula" ceiling((8* 256) / floor[128* (100-wsm+skillias+eias) / 100]) -1

All credits to @legen
https://i.imgur.com/62REwKd.png

so thats why we don't round up on the old formula when we get a perfect xx,00 frames

if you check here in this thread i made some calcs for smite this gave me 48% bcuz with 5 fpa i did the round up on a perfect xx,00 frames (5 fpa)
this gave me 48% ias needed, the reality is this video (see below) proved i was wrong, the video showed 46% ias needed exactly the eias used for a perfect xx,00 frames
the eias 101 was wrong because i round up the 5 fpa (eias 101 would give old 4,97 frames was the answer, but now the eias 100 will give 5,00 frames and still work)

using the round up frame to eias 101 (120*(101 - 37 + -30)) / (120 - (101 - 37 + -30) = 47,441860465... = 48% ias needed to achieve 5 fpa with PB (like grief) + fana aura lvl 27
not using round up frame to eias 100 now: (120*(100 - 37 + -30)) / (120 - (100 - 37 + -30) = 45,5172413793... = 46% ias needed to achieve 5 fpa with PB (like grief) + fana aura lvl 27

video proof: 46% ias needed for eias 100 (5fpa) smite skill
https://i.imgur.com/9CvQ8rY.mp4

i hope this give enough evidence, my only credit was compiling the data of other great users like gel87, marvel. and legen (i must be forgetting someone..)
Urkel i remember you tested the auto wsm, can you show me video doing this too? this would be vital for new calcs too.. thx man!

edit: i forgot to mention what link i was refering, my other thread about smite https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89080823&f=148


Haha the nooby mistake i did was that i believed ceiling was the same as rounding up xD and i cannot fix my excel sheet atm, cause my phone is norwegian excel and that wont even allow me to write roundup, i need to write avrund.opp, so i have no idea what ceiling would be, avrund.tak maby, but that never comes up as a alternativ xD
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Nov 16 2021 07:17am
DISMISS the theory craft done here, wrong reply :bonk: :wallbash:

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