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Quote (Sectorn9ne @ Nov 3 2021 07:12pm)
How much would you want to stack for vtpk when facing slow from item or hf


first i must say i'm a pvp scrub, really don't know svs, vt vs melee and etc, but to calc slow is simple:

the ias needed formula:
(120*(101 + (- 37 + -30) + slow)) / (120 - (101 (- 37 + -30) + slow) = ias needed against slow to reach 5 fpa (with fana lv27 + phaseblade base)

against item lets say arach:
(120*(101 + (- 37 + -30) + 10)) / (120 - (101 (- 37 + -30) + 10) = 84% ias needed against arach to reach 5 fpa (with fana lvl27 + phaseblade base)

against holly freeze lets say hf lvl12 (50% slow):
(120*(101 + (- 37 + -30) + 50)) / (120 - (101 (- 37 + -30) + 50) = 280% ias needed against holly freeze to reach 5 fpa (with fana lvl27 + phaseblade base)

you can verify for yourself with https://d2.lc/IAS/ to reach 6 fpa (old smite max bp):
(120*(72 + (- 37 + -30) + 50)) / (120 - (72 (- 37 + -30) + 50) = 101,5584 rounded up = 102% ias needed same as the calc, so the math is correct bcuz is the same formula used above

i hope this is not so overcomplicated, but tl:dr 84%ias against arach and 280%ias against hf lvl 12 to not drop below 5 fpa smite, cheers lad
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Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 4 2021 05:23am)
first i must say i'm a pvp scrub, really don't know svs, vt vs melee and etc, but to calc slow is simple:

the ias needed formula:
(120*(101 + (- 37 + -30) + slow)) / (120 - (101 (- 37 + -30) + slow) = ias needed against slow to reach 5 fpa (with fana lv27 + phaseblade base)

against item lets say arach:
(120*(101 + (- 37 + -30) + 10)) / (120 - (101 (- 37 + -30) + 10) = 84% ias needed against arach to reach 5 fpa (with fana lvl27 + phaseblade base)

against holly freeze lets say hf lvl12 (50% slow):
(120*(101 + (- 37 + -30) + 50)) / (120 - (101 (- 37 + -30) + 50) = 280% ias needed against holly freeze to reach 5 fpa (with fana lvl27 + phaseblade base)

you can verify for yourself with https://d2.lc/IAS/ to reach 6 fpa (old smite max bp):
(120*(72 + (- 37 + -30) + 50)) / (120 - (72 (- 37 + -30) + 50) = 101,5584 rounded up = 102% ias needed same as the calc, so the math is correct bcuz is the same formula used above

i hope this is not so overcomplicated, but tl:dr 84%ias against arach and 280%ias against hf lvl 12 to not drop below 5 fpa smite, cheers lad

awesome ty

I see you think kick has more bps, would other skills like berserk as well? or just those 2
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Nov 4 2021 12:31pm
all classes have unlimited breakpoints for now but the ias as fcr as diminished returns, so some builds won't be affected at all, others like fury druid expect to see some good shit here.. kicksins can surprise too, but i'm illiterate to skills with continuos atks as zeal, kicks and fury, seek the posts of Gel87 he's doing a great job with this!

btw reaching others users who tests some things too, seems some bps has a deviance or just work with one formula more than another (this part we still been figure out)

but! now i know why the dude dumyguy showed 46%ias, bcuz usually in d2lod the ias formulas round up the things up, but in this particular case and others cases just won't, thats what
why we call a deviance or at best a use of one formula and not the usual formula, in all cases every time we find the breakpoints we need ppl to test and see wich pattern d2r has more!

so whenever i see more grounded info i'll try bring, remembering i'm not the first one to doing nothing this, just compiling and backing up the calcs doing the calcs manually too check too

tl:dr we have some good ppl checking up all new possible bps, but we need more testers in-game :D
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Hmm just had someone message me this topic. Already had these gloves auction set to end in 38~ mins. Anyone interested is welcome to take a look before it ends as it would fit well into the 5fpa breakpoint build. 😋

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89375485&f=268

This post was edited by Blackmartin on Nov 7 2021 07:23pm
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Quote (Blackmartin @ Nov 7 2021 05:22pm)
Hmm just had someone message me this topic. Already had these gloves auction set to end in 38~ mins. Anyone interested is welcome to take a look before it ends as it would fit well into the 5fpa breakpoint build. 😋

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89375485&f=268



Ya nah man read the room
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Quote (Bunn @ Nov 7 2021 06:03pm)
Ya nah man read the room


All good, they went to a good home.
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Big brain shit. I love it 👍❤
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bring zerk table too! xD :P
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Nov 7 2021 08:21pm
I just made a zerk barb and I think there is another bp as well
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