That's interesting, I wasn't playing s12 so I didn't notice

90% of the players was playing the class.

I don't understand why people think ES even MUST be good. Most skilltrees in D2 don't have a "s-tier" viable build. It's not like it's weird for one skill tree to not be able to compete with other top builds.

ALso, i'm fairly sure that if we include all builds/versions warlock will be "S" along with Paladins and Sorcs still, and probably better, with whatever combination of Abyss/bloodboil/fire specs. I wouldn't mind eldritch being bad for a ladders time at least. It's still better than many other skilltrees.

I don't really mind them shitting on Warlock but they needed to add something else to make people excited about playing; right now heralds are worse, warlock is worse, and there's not like a new runeword to fuck around with or some balance changes to other classes. So basically nothing to feel positive about for the average player; sure Hammerdin players and Sorcs and Javazons will be happier but everyone else will feel worse about the patch compared to last patch. Warlock was brilliantly designed (there's no way whoever designed it actually works at Blizzard since they don't have that kind of inspiration anymore) as far as being interesting and fun to use in a lot of different builds so the last patch was the best one in ages even if they were comically OP (you could just play a less OP warlock build and it still would've been fun).

The only thing worth farming in the game is TZ meph and andy because they're 10x-20x better than everything else for loot/grail aside from runes.

This post was edited by Carbiner on May 20 2026 06:47am

They don't need to do anything. They didn't even need to add the warlock, it was just a nice bonus that they did. The more they add, the higher chance they'll screw something up. Microsoft-ActiVision Blizzard Entertainment is not the same company as blizzard north and cannot be compared to them. Microsoft-ActiVision Blizzard Entertainment didn't even make d2r and that's why it's good. We shouldn't ask for more stuff, because the more they add, the better chances of something terrible everyone hates being added will happen. This is new age blizzard, after all.

I appreciate this POV but they did leave an existing LoD there to play so it's not super important; you can just play the older version (though you should probably play something like PD2 instead). Reign of the Warlock sold really well so they will do something, but it doesn't seem like the interstitial seasons will be worth playing presently compared to whenever new X thing launches whether it be an expansion or another class etc.

You all didn't really expect warlock to stay OP did you?

Hilarious 😂

OH NOOZ you're Warlock only does a 20k damage instead of 400K? How, terrible!

But seriously, thats not a nerf, they fixed something that was broken, it was never supposed to do hundreds of thousands of damage.

Even with the changes warlocks are still OP but at least somewhat reasonable.

same here ... i killed my demon by the way .... sumoning another demon for counsume ... and now .. a cant bind hepasto again ..

warlock slained

cleave still pumping

cleave > es

This post was edited by Warlock316 on May 20 2026 12:32pm