Colossal Ancients Order Reveal - Topic

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Apr 13 2026 05:09pm

Quote (Emiliaaa @ Apr 13 2026 04:02pm)

Oh I guess I missed the first post. The order does actually matter? I thought only the last kill mattered lol. I'm pretty sure that's the case, how you kill them doesn't particularly matter.

It's:
Lighting/Magic = Madawk
Fire/Physical = Korlic
Cold/Poison = Talic

No.. Fear's 2 runs have confirmed that 1st and 2nd order matters

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Apr 13 2026 05:17pm

Quote (BdizzleD2 @ Apr 13 2026 04:09pm)

No.. Fear's 2 runs have confirmed that 1st and 2nd order matters

No... They absolutely did not lol. Two coin flips is not a sample size :rofl:

You have extreme confirmation bias with this when you need way more data. Even OP doing it 12 times is not unbelievable rng. It needs more data than that.

If he does it 20 times and they're ALL lightning, I'll believe it. Or if there's data proving this stated elsewhere. But until then, I'm going to go on believing how I believe.

This post was edited by Emiliaaa on Apr 13 2026 05:22pm

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Apr 13 2026 05:31pm

There is some precedent for this:

Brain: H,T,D. Horn: D,H,T. Eye: T,D,H.

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Apr 13 2026 05:54pm

Quote (Azomon @ Apr 13 2026 04:25pm)

didnt take 99 runs to see my experience was just rng biased.
first run killing on SP, talic first gave me light. second one aswell. dont need more testing

Dude I just want to give you some props. You had a hypothesis, came in here to lay it out, collected more data, and shared the conclusion even though it disproved the hypothesis.

You are a rare gem on the internet :hail:

This was a fun read, ty

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Apr 13 2026 07:09pm

Quote (Bombout @ Apr 14 2026 01:54am)

there is no ego in this, all I care about is that if there was such a thing as my hypothesis, people should know !
it's not, I'm not gonna cry about it, there's no ego in there
my experience was still pretty weird, but I never came in like "omg guys I found this crazy thing and I'm 100% sure about it". I know maths and odds enough to know it could be coincidence! It was, all good :thumbsup:

this was a fun lil journey for me to, now that game proved me wrong I can sleep peacefully

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Apr 13 2026 10:18pm

Quote (Azomon @ Apr 14 2026 03:09am)

Thanks for your time anyway =]
There's also the possibility that another variable influences the RNG seed, on purpose or not.
That would mean you controlled that variable without knowing it on the original 12 runs, but not on the additional testing.

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Speaking of deterministic drop, it would be interesting to see what happens if you kill all 3 (or the last 2) at the very same time.
I guess RNG could decide the outcome, assuming Blizzard thought about such case...
Hard to do though, even with fat AOE damage.

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Apr 14 2026 04:06am

Quote (Azomon @ 13 Apr 2026 15:57)

I haven't done deep research, but the research I made only said
"If you kill X ancient last, you have 50/50 chance to get either one of these Jewels".

I haven't got the biggest sample (12 runs, only Madawc last kill), so it could still be "luck" but :

When I kill in this order : Talic -> Korlic -> Madawc
I get Magic Jool
When I kill Korlic -> Talic -> Madawc
I get Lightning Jool.

Maybe this intel is already out there but so far from my research and what I've heard on recent streams, it seems like people are unaware,
So either I've had always "luck" and it was "just RNG playing out" that when I kill Talic first I get Magic,
But I doubt it.

big if true, all we know is this: