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Sep 30 2025 09:38pm

all builds must reach 75 psn res

and for the purpose of an easier/fair comparison, all builds must include eth treks as boots


lol what a waste of time then
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Psn resist is so pointless lol you are okay with 0 fire and lite res but require 75 psn res?

Your merc has cure that’s the whole point of your merc
And I know this will be shocking but swap out on of your rows for your belt to…. You guessed it antidote potion
Honestly you usually make sense but you really went left field this time.


Totally agree with you lmao

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...Addressing the question : should I use frostburns?
...A 95 ES sorc already feels immortal without this bonus. And this extra mana makes no difference against the 3 dangers on this build : Souls/mana burn, psn dmg, Blood Mana curse.
So, in my humble opinion, it makes no sense to sacrifice 2 skills (-9.71% dmg) and make the build much more expensive.

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lol what a waste of time then


Psn resist is so pointless lol you are okay with 0 fire and lite res but require 75 psn res?

Your merc has cure that’s the whole point of your merc
And I know this will be shocking but swap out on of your rows for your belt to…. You guessed it antidote potion
Honestly you usually make sense but you really went left field this time.

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Totally agree with you lmao


You guys went left field.
I clearly mentioned that “for the purpose of an easier/fair comparison” as treks are by far the most popular choice, the easy to obtain option, and the least relevant piece of gear.
This is a study. The more you start including some gg impossible to obtain craft/rare items, the less relevant becomes the study.
And this is study mostly looking at dmg and cost-to-effectiveness, defensive stats being the least concern.
So it’s a bit sad if you guys nitpicked the most irrelevant detail in the whole thing and ignored everything that was important.
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You guys went left field.
I clearly mentioned that “for the purpose of an easier/fair comparison” as treks are by far the most popular choice, the easy to obtain option, and the least relevant piece of gear.
This is a study. The more you start including some gg impossible to obtain craft/rare items, the less relevant becomes the study.
And this is study mostly looking at dmg and cost-to-effectiveness, defensive stats being the least concern.
So it’s a bit sad if you guys nitpicked the most irrelevant detail in the whole thing and ignored everything that was important.


3/3/3 20 orb ?
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3/3/3 20 orb ?


That’s what people were asking for in another thread.
I even added the infamous coh eschuta jmod as the 4th build lol.
Only used here to expose how the dmg curves quickly invert themselves when you prioritize flat dmg over light pen.

I used treks. Could have been any other boots and it wouldn’t have changed anything about this study as long as we use the same boots on all builds.
I already had to use some expensive 2/20 amy on the ormus and orb setup, to reach 105 like on the standard cheaper viper setup.

And saying that treks are bad is just wrong in the first place.
Using ultra expensive crafted caster boots just to improve your mana pool makes no difference.
You don’t die from not having enough mana to tank just about any hit in the game… no.
You are subject to dying vs souls, where some extra mana won’t save you.
You are subject to dying by a hit following your small heath pool being quickly lowered by strong psn dmg. And having cure on merc is not fixing this problem instantly. Pairing it with psn res helps a lot.
And you are, more rarely, subject to dying from a bad telestomp against the worst amp + might/fana packs, where having much higher def could also save you.
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Oct 1 2025 08:38am
Nova sork meni stronk ty 4 build
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Oct 1 2025 08:54am
Another build I should have added now that I think about it…
Cmoon + 20/-20 shield with insight merc
To reach -85 ELR like on standard self-wield setups, but without conv, just to show the resulting static curve of dmg.

Here it is, against 0res, 33res, 50res, 95res :

46.25% / 38% / 33.75% / 22.5%

Vs standard -85 ELR + conv :

26.45% / 33.25% / 38.1% / 26.75%
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Oct 1 2025 08:59am
didnt read anything but probably wr0ng
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Oct 1 2025 09:37am
This is Superbad, Supergay


Well done
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