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Mar 12 2024 02:58pm
Quote (Void511 @ 12 Mar 2024 19:53)
Using fort for some Ed along with Cham vgaze for leech and dr which seems to work so far but I haven’t put him through the wringer yet vs souls etc. you could be right that he’s too squishy.


Hmmm just test it a bit :D looks good but I think that no % ed merc weapon could be tricky to get him to life Leech

Lmk how it works maybe I’ll do my v/t 97-99
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Mar 12 2024 04:46pm
Quote (Void511 @ Mar 12 2024 08:46pm)
No shit. This isn’t a pvp mage and a mage for pvm isn’t new either to d2r. The new part is using pride for conc aura instead of leveling it yourself and instead putting points into hammer synergies. I’m guessing you didn’t read the post and then decided to post anyways


ye i agree its shit.

enjoy! :thumbsup:
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Mar 12 2024 05:27pm
Quote (jackherer @ Mar 12 2024 07:46pm)
ye i agree its shit.

enjoy! :thumbsup:


i guess you really cant read. Take care!
Quote (jackherer @ Mar 12 2024 07:46pm)
ye i agree its shit.

enjoy! :thumbsup:


Will do!
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Mar 12 2024 08:40pm
Just compared both setups at 86fcr, same gear, just changing the skill points

1) pride merc
vs
2) self conc

FOH
same

Hammer
1) has 19.9% more dmg

Lets just assume that even if hammer is the secondary skill, it's still giving overal ~10% dps increased if we were to deal aprox the same dmg with both skills overall

If you dont care about loosing merc's dmg output, having trouble to keep him alive, having to pot yourself from time to time and having to switch between a few auras like redemption and cleanse to compensate for the absence of tripple heal / medidate / cure from the setup 2)
...
then I guess it's worth sacrificing all that QoL for the increased dmg

My conclusion?
I won't haha, but you do you ^_^

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Mar 12 2024 08:43pm
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Mar 12 2024 10:53pm
Tried it out. Seems like a good way to go if you don't mind the extra APM of drinking some mana pots occasionally. I found the additional hammer dmg to be worth the trade off w/ my 125fcr build that isn't using a fancy scepter. The A2 merc with Pride isn't as squishy as you might think. With forti and conc/might auras boosting his physical dmg he does enough to be able to sustain himself.

I would still run Insight on merc for stuff like running Baals if you are teleporting to Throne but for farming TZs Pride seems like a nice way to go.

This post was edited by XanderOptik on Mar 12 2024 10:55pm
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Mar 13 2024 01:14am
Nice setup.

Boosting hammer damage and having high Foh damage as well. Merc will just provide conc aura :d

This post was edited by JayBomber on Mar 13 2024 01:14am
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Mar 13 2024 01:58am
Hello good!

I love these topics where we discuss how to take the builds to their maximum expression, for these things Diablo 2 is a great game, because 20 years later there is still room to discuss builds, make the experiments known to other, and among all of us reach to conclusions and put them into practice.

Well, my question is, how the hell can I see the different sets that the op has created on d2maxroll with the phone? Hahahah lol
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Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Mar 12 2024 11:40pm)
Just compared both setups at 86fcr, same gear, just changing the skill points

1) pride merc
vs
2) self conc

FOH
same

Hammer
1) has 19.9% more dmg

Lets just assume that even if hammer is the secondary skill, it's still giving overal ~10% dps increased if we were to deal aprox the same dmg with both skills overall

If you dont care about loosing merc's dmg output, having trouble to keep him alive, having to pot yourself from time to time and having to switch between a few auras like redemption and cleanse to compensate for the absence of tripple heal / medidate / cure from the setup 2)
...
then I guess it's worth sacrificing all that QoL for the increased dmg

My conclusion?
I won't haha, but you do you ^_^

True but in regards to swapping auras, you would have to put conc on when casting hammers anyways so with this setup you would usually just swap your conc hotkey out for redemption. Occasionally you could use cleanse instead but it’s no more apm than using conc all the time. The only difference is the occasional mana pot :)

If you wanted ultimate comfort you could also run Pheonix shield and equip mana on rings, amulet and inventory. Less dps but you’d never have to use auras except maybe clears while firing hammers but that’s completely optional since psn and amp aren’t really a threat

This post was edited by Void511 on Mar 13 2024 04:31am
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Mar 13 2024 04:52am
Quote (Void511 @ Mar 12 2024 09:53pm)
Not sure if anyone has thought of this for a hybrid foh/hammer setup but I played around with using a pride merc to supply conc aura so that I could save points to pump up hammer synergies and it works nicely.

Here is the skeleton build with 3 different varriations

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/0dqd0ylk

Set 1 would be best in slot gear for dps. The sceptre would obviously be hard af to find but it's nice to have a real end game option to strive for

Set 2 has 1 less fcr frame on tele, hammer and foh but packs a greater punch for those that like to see big numbers on the char screen (this build isnt as good as set 1)

Set 3 is a "budget" build that doesnt use a top of the line scepter and instead uses hoto. Still solid dps at a fraction of the price.


The benefit to using pride as stated allows you to save 20 skill points from concentration and instead invest those points into hammer synergies. The works out to around a 2k increase on hammer damage compared to a standard foh/hammer hybrid build with the same foh dmg and frames.

The secondary benefit to this setup is that you no longer have to swap to concentration when using hammers which increases QoL of the build and also allows you to use redemption without giving up dps to further boost QoL and survivability.

Let me hear your thought. Apologies if this was already what people were doing - it just occurred to me


Nice builds! As long as mana is enough, these are awesome!

But I'd miss Insight, I guess, lol
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Mar 13 2024 06:09am
Quote (Void511 @ Mar 12 2024 11:27pm)
i guess you really cant read. Take care!

Will do!


Tell me what the benefit of using this build in pvm is

It's worse than pure hammer
It's worse than pure foh

What the hell is the purpose?

Are you some kind of hipster?
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