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Oct 4 2022 05:42am
Quote (freeuse @ Oct 4 2022 09:04am)
btw they added specific treasure classes for terror zone and another last minute change: sunder charm is guaranteed to drop from champs in terror zones :rofl: so basically you kill 6 champs in a tz and you got all of them


What's the point of having various minus res roll on sunder when they drop as often as tp scrolls?
rip blizzard

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Oct 4 2022 05:51am
Huge nerf? you mean it goes back to the way it was before it was tested on PTR lol and how its been for 20 years.
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Oct 4 2022 06:12am
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Huge nerf? you mean it goes back to the way it was before it was tested on PTR lol and how its been for 20 years.



Infinity hasn’t technically been in the game for 20 years…

This post was edited by A2V on Oct 4 2022 06:16am
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Oct 4 2022 06:35am
It’s still significantly more damage added, what does it matter
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Infinity hasn’t technically been in the game for 20 years…


oh boo fucking hoo, 19 years, get your head out of your ass lol
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Oct 4 2022 06:47am
If you are not using the new sunder charms, there is no nerf to the infinity. No difference.

What got nerfed is the effect of infinity after the sunder charm effect.

Before: sunder charm lowers res to 95, then infinity -85 you got monster with 10res.

Now: sunder charm lowers res to 95, then infinity -85/5 you to monster with 78.

Monster with 110 res after only infinity would have 110-17=93...
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Oct 4 2022 07:07am
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If you are not using the new sunder charms, there is no nerf to the infinity. No difference.

What got nerfed is the effect of infinity after the sunder charm effect.

Before: sunder charm lowers res to 95, then infinity -85 you got monster with 10res.

Now: sunder charm lowers res to 95, then infinity -85/5 you to monster with 78.

Monster with 110 res after only infinity would have 110-17=93...


That's the problem, the end result is quite different for the elements tho, they didn't think this one out one bit.
Phys and magic one are useless garbage.
Cold one gives extreme versatility to the most popular build.
Lightning one buffs an already S tier build by adding extra pierce.
Fire one still doesn't even come close to a previous patch (!!!) lightning/cold style endgame, is is by far the biggest loser in this change.

This post was edited by LordHextor on Oct 4 2022 07:08am
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That's the problem, the end result is quite different for the elements tho, they didn't think this one out one bit.
Phys and magic one are useless garbage.
Cold one gives extreme versatility to the most popular build.
Lightning one buffs an already S tier build by adding extra pierce.
Fire one still doesn't even come close to a previous patch (!!!) lightning/cold style endgame, is is by far the biggest loser in this change.



True but fire sorc is still better than before: with the right -res gear you can get decent damage against immunes, which you couldn’t even break with Infinity before.

This post was edited by reupi on Oct 4 2022 07:19am
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Very good


this.

They sent a rescue patch after nearly sinking the ship
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Oct 4 2022 07:24am
Quote (LordHextor @ Oct 4 2022 02:07pm)
That's the problem, the end result is quite different for the elements tho, they didn't think this one out one bit.
Phys and magic one are useless garbage.
Cold one gives extreme versatility to the most popular build.
Lightning one buffs an already S tier build by adding extra pierce.
Fire one still doesn't even come close to a previous patch (!!!) lightning/cold style endgame, is is by far the biggest loser in this change.


Yes correct. They buff is not equal for everyone. Does it have to be? You could argue that. I don't think so. Some characters can be stronger than others. Just like in life ;).

What it means in practice?

Majority of people will start as a bizzard sorc as they always did - if they find cold sunder charm they will be able to kill monsters with cold immunes which they couldnt before. Majority of people will still farm meph and andy anyway.

In late game all S tier builds can melt everything so these charms will allow more characters to do it (especially fire). Those that melt everything already will still melt everything.

I dont think there will be many people with access to end game gear still playing blizz sorc ...
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