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Aug 17 2021 09:40pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Aug 17 2021 10:38pm)
Duel ^Whiteshadowmaster Necro vs Sin.

The rules are as follows:
Necro no WSG
Sin no ww/dclaw/kick/etc. Pure trapper only.

He's not a sin main, you're not a necro main, however both of you are competent in the respective classes.


Simulate thus and come back with the results
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Aug 17 2021 09:42pm
Quote (loftyEs @ Aug 17 2021 10:38pm)
I mean this is a slippery slope, and I'm now seeing the issue as you point out. I do not deny, that you could easily kill some rand without WSG. LOL we both know there's a massive skill discrepancy between the higher tier players and people who pub duel. Maybe we find an FPK player that isn't considered super good, but up and coming and has a good grasp on the interactions of pvp?


how about me vs bui, nec vs sin, no wsg, no ww
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Aug 17 2021 09:44pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Aug 17 2021 11:38pm)
Duel ^Whiteshadowmaster Necro vs Sin.

The rules are as follows:
Necro no WSG
Sin no ww/dclaw/kick/etc. Pure trapper only.

He's not a sin main, you're not a necro main, however both of you are competent in the respective classes.


I think this is fair. Whiteshadowmaster is someone who fpks and understands the mechanics of pvp in an in-depth fashion. What do you say?
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Aug 17 2021 09:45pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 17 2021 10:42pm)
how about me vs bui, nec vs sin, no wsg, no ww


This
Let us know what to expect
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Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 17 2021 11:42pm)
how about me vs bui, nec vs sin, no wsg, no ww


Bui is traditional a spider or ghost sin player no? I'd prefer you duel with an fpk trap sin player.
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Aug 17 2021 09:48pm
Lets see what Bui says. I honestly don't mind if he uses ww. I think we are comfortable with each other's playstyles enough, and fairly evenly enough skilled, that it would be a good experiment to run. Maybe even both ways.
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Aug 17 2021 09:50pm
I did quit more than 10 Yeats ago, i never looked back . I played europe.
Since some months, i am lurking around D2 scene.
And i am dissapointed from what i see .
You guys are using any glitch to have advantage c/t,macro to wsg lol???, Str bug on all char to desynch more.
And the funny and i talk for myself we all knew this but barely used it because it's borderline bm
I sée your 1.14 spawn answer " oldschooler didnt know shit blabla", you are just playing all your character as ama player used to play them in 1.10.
Desynch,lock with fury swap for ga,wsg desynch, str bug desynch etc even c/t. You didnt discover shit.
in my point of view your way to play thé game nowadays is cancer.
No wonder there is close to no freshblood.
I will go even further your pvp scene isnt a place i want to play.(who cares rigth?) But New player will be same when will explain it to them.
I guess it's time for me to rejoin the 1.09 boomer, in a way thats i dont want to be a part of this shitshow lol.
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Aug 17 2021 09:51pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 16 2021 10:06pm)
not true, there was a time before wsg was widely known if even known at all. the meta hasn't changed too much from then and now tbh.


Very dumb argument, the absolute worst fpker today who dies on go 9/10 rounds would literally 50-0 the best dueler of "that time" just by the mechanical knowledge of the game. Metas advance and grow, and people who reference times when the best player wasnt even on par with the absolute worst modern player are part of the problem of the evolution of competitive gaming.

Nobody, on ANY game, from early ages of their games, are even comparable to the lowest "high level" gamers today. If wsg is removed, you will have the best 2-3 players literally playing a 174 sin who will 5-0 ANYBODY on ANY character.

Referencing "a time before wsg" also references a time when even the "best" assassins didn't understand the mechanical frames of their character, how their skills worked, how THE ENEMY'S frames worked, or even knew how to namelock an enemy within 1.0 of being on their screen yet alone comprehend FHR delays in conjunction to their trap laying speed/trap cast delays.


Stop that argument PLEASE lol.
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Aug 17 2021 09:52pm
lol. lmao.

just like what happened when I 1v1'd brock, huh?

gg fool.

This post was edited by Gilgameshed on Aug 17 2021 09:53pm
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Aug 17 2021 09:57pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 17 2021 10:52pm)
lol. lmao.

just like what happened when I 1v1'd brock, huh?

gg fool.


Not sure what type of counter to the argument this is....?

...But if you insist

Brock was like a 7/10 dueler, and he still beat you... Did you happen to maybe kill his necro that had 25FR on an assassin that did 8.5k fb (took maybe 5 fbs) once or twice? Yeah , but he won every duel vs you.

your anecdotal interactions are not what the general consensus is .
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