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Oct 3 2022 08:32pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 3 2022 02:53pm)
Sunder on light barely mattered at all anyway. There's only a single unbreakable immune by default, some shitty WSK skeleton mages that die to merc. The only unbreakable immunes people ran into were lightning enchanted infector of souls or whatever, so its a minor convenience.


Not to quibble too much but there are actually a lot of elites that can spawn with unbreakable light immunity with the correct affix rolls. So pre 2.5 sunder is still a big boost to light sorcs simply because they can now kill all elites whereas they often couldn’t previously.

However I agree in concept that this recent change is still stupid.
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Oct 3 2022 10:51pm
lols Diablo 3 devs strike again.
Last minute changes.

I wouldnt bank on them trying to alter cold mastery because the way that works is the same as facets and other direct pierce items like griffons, crescent moon, Doom, pheonix, hand of justice, flickering flame, etc ... if ALL of those things also end up getting the 1/5 penalty on their direct element pierce ... pretty much a -5% facet for example would only take off a silly 1 % haha ... a 3% facet would like not even put a dent on the resistance pierce since this game always rounds down on their formula calculations. Plus ... if they do 1/5 penalty on those direct pierce stuff (that isnt conviction or lower res) , that would be too much work for small indy company to hard code it to ONLY apply to a Sundered Monster.
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Oct 3 2022 11:37pm
Quote (spokoluzik1989 @ Oct 3 2022 01:17pm)
Which part did I get wrong ?

Charm (95%) - 12lvl Conviction from Infinity (85%/5 = 17%) - CM (35%) - GE (25%) - Faced (5-10%) so it gets 8 or 13% while without charm some of the monsters would still have 68%.



Yea its still a buff, its just that now lightning and fire won't be stupidly op with infinity.

Everyone acting like this is a nerf when everyone is still going to use infinity. Cold sorc is still the best starter as she can largely ignore infinity till you get wealth.

This was always going to be the case. Everyone was and still is going to start cold and respec to lightning/fire regardless of these changes. Just a bunch of whiners who wanted to be stupidly op.
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Oct 3 2022 11:39pm
They left out Amp + Decrep from their description. Guess that means they will still work at 100% with a physical sunder charm. It's still going to be shit but at least they paid attention to not make it even more shit xD
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Oct 3 2022 11:39pm
SO hammerdin is again top tier
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Oct 4 2022 12:04am
btw they added specific treasure classes for terror zone and another last minute change: sunder charm is guaranteed to drop from champs in terror zones :rofl: so basically you kill 6 champs in a tz and you got all of them
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Oct 4 2022 12:13am
Quote (freeuse @ Oct 3 2022 11:04pm)
btw they added specific treasure classes for terror zone and another last minute change: sunder charm is guaranteed to drop from champs in terror zones :rofl: so basically you kill 6 champs in a tz and you got all of them


i dont see any guarantee
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Oct 4 2022 12:19am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 3 2022 03:53pm)
Sunder on light barely mattered at all anyway. There's only a single unbreakable immune by default, some shitty WSK skeleton mages that die to merc. The only unbreakable immunes people ran into were lightning enchanted infector of souls or whatever, so its a minor convenience. Javazons and light sorcs already have such high -resists and extremely high damage and light immune monsters tend to be low hp, so even the difference between 17% conviction and 85% conviction doesn't really change their clear speed. Its not like javazons struggle to kill storm casters.

Meanwhile fire builds have to deal with venom lords, frenzytaurs, minions of destruction, arachs, hell spawn, crush beasts, etc etc. Unique minotaur packs with 150,000 HP and 120% fire resist and 66% DR and uninterruptible unslowable rampaging slaughtering bull cock, have fun using your merc



Could a decked out lightning character with sunder theoretically clear mobs before infinity aura is even active on those mobs? Or is there not enough time between aura ticks?
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Oct 4 2022 12:25am
The fact they Indirectly nerfed fire/poison builds and promoted cold sorcs because of lightning builds being too strong just says it all tbh.
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Oct 4 2022 12:36am
Hello my fellow cold sorcs :banana:
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