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Aug 17 2021 08:56pm
Sins OP. Ban sins; win games.

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Aug 17 2021 08:58pm
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Sins OP. Ban sins; win games.


Shockwave druid op
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Aug 17 2021 09:02pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 17 2021 10:55pm)
I like wsg but I don't like desynch. We dueled fine without it before, and we will duel fine without it. It isn't as big of a deal as most are making it to be. Fortunately, I won't even have to prove it, as the matter seems to be settled. If you want to remain competitive in d2r, you will have to adapt. I adapted to learn how to duel with wsg. I expect you can learn to duel how we did just the same. Fair.


I have dueled with and without WSG. I won't need to adapt. Desync is an issue we agree upon, I think desync is not healthy for the game.
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Aug 17 2021 09:06pm
Yea, I have no issues with wsg as an animation cancel, and I do agree with your points that it will encourage more defensive play vs sins, but once ppl adapt it really won't be all that much different. A lot of people here are flipping their shit way too hard, and it makes me wonder if people who played and quit before wsg became prominent might actually have the upper hand in d2r, simply from being used to dueling without it. frw and fhr is still the way out. I honestly haven't changed my builds at all much, outside of now speccing for torch and anyas.
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Aug 17 2021 09:11pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 17 2021 11:06pm)
Yea, I have no issues with wsg as an animation cancel, and I do agree with your points that it will encourage more defensive play vs sins, but once ppl adapt it really won't be all that much different. A lot of people here are flipping their shit way too hard, and it makes me wonder if people who played and quit before wsg became prominent might actually have the upper hand in d2r, simply from being used to dueling without it. frw and fhr is still the way out. I honestly haven't changed my builds at all much, outside of now speccing for torch and anyas.


Whoever plays sin will have the upper hand xD. I wont lose to any druid / necro / zon / sorc / barb it wont matter how good they are. At the highest level, the only character with any chance of beating a a good sin will be hdin. Sounds boring to me
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Aug 17 2021 09:13pm
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Whoever plays sin will have the upper hand xD. I wont lose to any druid / necro / zon / sorc / barb it wont matter how good they are. At the highest level, the only character with any chance of beating a a good sin will be hdin. Sounds boring to me


thats how it was in the beginning. The hdin overlords are back!!!
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Aug 17 2021 09:15pm
More challenging for me. Makes victories even sweeter. 😎
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Whoever plays sin will have the upper hand xD. I wont lose to any druid / necro / zon / sorc / barb it wont matter how good they are. At the highest level, the only character with any chance of beating a a good sin will be hdin. Sounds boring to me


paladin has charge
barb and sin have ww, barb also has leap
necro can literally just run out of mb and can outrange sin

the only real issue I see is druid vs sin/leap

in any case it will be a priority in team duels for certain characters to be countered and killed first

there were good reasons some druids used 174 fhr back in the day
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Aug 17 2021 09:23pm
Quote (Gilgameshed @ Aug 17 2021 11:22pm)
paladin has charge
barb and sin have ww, barb also has leap
necro can literally just run out of mb and can outrange sin

the only real issue I see is druid vs sin/leap

in any case it will be a priority in team duels for certain characters to be countered and killed first

there were good reasons some druids used 174 fhr back in the day


Maybe we can record some NvT this weekend where you play a necro with 6 frame fhr, and no wsg and I play sin? You can show how "viable" a necro is with wsg vs a trapper.
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Aug 17 2021 09:24pm
Quote (loftyEs @ Aug 17 2021 11:23pm)
Maybe we can record some NvT this weekend where you play a necro with 6 frame fhr, and no wsg and I play sin? You can show how "viable" a necro is with wsg vs a trapper.


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