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Oct 3 2022 07:19pm
Doesn’t really change for cold builds except supply and demand early ladder and I suspect fire/lightning will dominate late game…

Cold sorc pre patch 2.5 = best affordable early mf character
Cold sorc after patch 2.5 = best affordable early mf character for 2 weeks longer

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Anyways I’m excited for the new ladder :)
Have fun everyone

This post was edited by ik0604 on Oct 3 2022 07:19pm
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Oct 3 2022 07:22pm
Quote (crayoneater3 @ Oct 3 2022 12:55pm)
This literally only nerfs lightning. I am all for it as infinity makes lightning broken anyway. Cold mastery next then i will be happy.


what a repulsive sig. Should pay people for having looked at it.
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Oct 3 2022 07:22pm
Quote (A2V @ Oct 3 2022 09:16pm)
So in the case of sunder immunes:
Ber ber ist gets you -17 light
Vex pul gets you -15 fire
Shael um tir gets you -35 light


cmoon coming in hot
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Oct 3 2022 07:45pm
Whoa that's a little much. Not everyone wants to play a cold sorc.
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Oct 3 2022 08:06pm
im i missing something because conviction always been 1/5 effective against immune monsters, just wondering how Infinity is "nerfed" in this case
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Oct 3 2022 08:11pm
Quote (Hagerty @ Oct 3 2022 09:06pm)
im i missing something because conviction always been 1/5 effective against immune monsters, just wondering how Infinity is "nerfed" in this case


The nerf is that the benefits are only marginal compared to what it was before, and it doesn't address that cold is infinitely better for how Cold Mastery inherently lowers resistances without the need of 2 Ber Runes/CM still working at full effect.

I still think my idea I came up with was the best idea suggested thus far, and that is to fix resistances to 95% and remove the penalty/adjust it to all resistances.
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Oct 3 2022 08:12pm
Quote (Hagerty @ Oct 3 2022 10:06pm)
im i missing something because conviction always been 1/5 effective against immune monsters, just wondering how Infinity is "nerfed" in this case



You’re correct, it’s a nerf in the sense of the conviction previously working at full effect since the enemies were no longer immune. Still a buff overall just relatively minor -17 vs -85
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Oct 3 2022 08:24pm
Quote (A2V @ Oct 3 2022 09:12pm)
You’re correct, it’s a nerf in the sense of the conviction previously working at full effect since the enemies were no longer immune. Still a buff overall just relatively minor -17 vs -85


The nerf is also within the fact that you can just Sunder Charm instead of Infinity, and using both is overly expensive for just -17 resistances. If Facets, Griffons, and Cmoon work at full effect, you'd be better off spending the money on those items instead.

Infinity may be better than Sunder cause of the lack of negative resistances, so it will then come down to what is more expensive and if you can tank the negative resistances.

Or just use Cold, because Cold is Superior in all ways at this point.

This post was edited by eric1014153 on Oct 3 2022 08:24pm
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Oct 3 2022 08:25pm
cry about it
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Oct 3 2022 08:28pm
Is infinity still worth it for non sorc ele builds like Javazon?
I was working towards making one for my merc but I don't understand these new mechanics enough to decide whether it's a good idea anymore.
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