Wsg Is Not Working: We Need To Speak Up - Topic

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Aug 17 2021 08:21pm

Quote (loftyEs @ Aug 17 2021 10:19pm)

We can argue about the calibre of players, but its a rather useless argument. I will not deny that there were very good players in the past with great namelocks. The point being made is that you have 1. a game with wsg which allows for a dynamic, reactive and proactive gameplay. Vs. 2. a game without WSG, which is simply a defensive, run away playstyle and avoid getting mb'd playstyle. One is way more competitive and fun, the other isn't.

eh, again a difference of opinions.

I had a lot of fun in 2004-2008 duels before that shit was commonplace, and there was quite a lot of competition with clan wars all the time, everyone had fun.

so I don't see the big deal of needing to adapt again even though meta and tactics had evolved into something current players have grown to love.

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Aug 17 2021 08:22pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Aug 17 2021 10:17pm)

hum, well I teamed with a druid by that name if you remember dueling with a kicksin player on east back in the day.

Humm, I've only ever made 1 nado druid before, 90% of my pvp was done on my ESFB, just "Fizzle". :unsure:

It could absolutely be someone else. Around that time was like the only time I was doing team pvp though, back when someone I met in game invited me to JSP and I would do stuff with guild Fraternity.

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Aug 17 2021 08:23pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Aug 17 2021 08:18pm)

no, charge desync still works, get hit from a screen away with charge.
can't confirm hammer desync, but heard from others it still exists. didnt have a hammerdin opponent show me tho.

wsg desync is entirely gone tho.
macro 20x wsg per second, and it will not desync.

nice!! if charge still desyncs then hammers will

ive never wsg in any duel so thats meaningless to me

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Aug 17 2021 08:25pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Aug 17 2021 10:21pm)

I mean you kind of make my point for me though.

Yes we will adapt. But, the current state of the game allows for a much widely viability of characters and strategies, which makes pvp more competitive and expressive of skill. I'm sorry, but holding down teleport and avoiding a sin by being 2-3 screens away the entire duel in not conducive to a competitive or fun pvp environment. The same goes for TPK / FPK and clan wars, right now there is an entire meta that is super competitive around playing around your team. Without wsg, it will be l8z spam and defensive positioning.

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Aug 17 2021 08:26pm

Quote (Fizzle @ Aug 17 2021 10:22pm)

Humm, I've only ever made 1 nado druid before, 90% of my pvp was done on my ESFB, just "Fizzle". :unsure: It could absolutely be someone else. Around that time was like the only time I was doing team pvp though, back when someone I met in game invited me to JSP and I would do stuff with guild Fraternity.

ah ok, was likely someone else then, this guy was a druid main.
thought I ran into someone I used to know lol.

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Aug 17 2021 08:29pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Aug 17 2021 10:26pm)

ah ok, was likely someone else then, this guy was a druid main.
thought I ran into someone I used to know lol.

Yeah, was starting to think maybe you were an old friend too that used a dif jsp account when we met for some reason. I did play with a kick sin often xD

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Aug 17 2021 08:30pm

Quote (Fizzle @ Aug 17 2021 10:29pm)

Yeah, was starting to think maybe you were an old friend too that used a dif jsp account when we met for some reason. I did play with a kick sin often xD

oh wait, then maybe that was me lol.
there werent exactly many kicksins around.

ziecheik/zaiychik/zaichiek depending on when you knew me if you knew me.

maybe I just remember druid cause sin+druid rocked

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Aug 17 2021 08:31pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Aug 17 2021 10:30pm)

oh wait, then maybe that was me lol.
there werent exactly many kicksins around.

ziecheik/zaiychik/zaichiek depending on when you knew me if you knew me.

It's possible haha. Sheesh.. back then I would have prob talked to you on AIM or MSN of all things.. I'm such a boomer.

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Aug 17 2021 08:52pm

Quote (Sapporo @ Aug 17 2021 08:27am)

Whole thread is basically a poll to get an estimate breakdown of player base that actually pvp.

rather a poll to see who was pvping in 1.10 and who was still mf'ing ladder

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Aug 17 2021 08:55pm

Quote (loftyEs @ Aug 17 2021 08:49pm)

I'm really disappointed that veterans of the pvp scene such as yourself aren't defending WSG. You know as well as I do how much depth and fun it adds to the game, allowing for a plethora of matchups to be way more competitively viable. It's truly a shame.

I like wsg but I don't like desynch. We dueled fine without it before, and we will duel fine without it now. It isn't as big of a deal as most are making it to be. Fortunately, I won't even have to prove it, as the matter seems to be settled. If you want to remain competitive in d2r, you will have to adapt. I adapted to learn how to duel with wsg. I expect you can learn to duel how we did just the same. Fair.

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