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Jan 21 2022 06:01pm
Quote (GNX @ Jan 22 2022 08:34am)
now we have a reason to uninstall lol

theyre making changes they promised they werent going to fuck with.

RIP grush



Cya
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Jan 21 2022 06:01pm
Quote (thegodishere @ 21 Jan 2022 20:56)
Basically :

20 points LS/SW/CBS/FB

Then 20 points in fade for 50 dr and rest into venom

Enjoy


that's a hybrid, not a trapper lol
Pure trapper wil get easily 50% dr and 60@ wb now.
The question is: the damage with synergy changes will reduce or keep? I'm too lazy to do the math
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Jan 21 2022 06:05pm
Quote (WWI @ Jan 21 2022 04:00pm)
They could just give us access to hell without needing to complete norm/nm difficulties too, considering the bulk of everybody is just going to grush/crush and not play through the content anyway.



You are missing the point completely...why change this. This not skipping difficulties or uber leveling. Its a part of the game that has been that way since a long long time.

Fixing it doesn't fix skipping parts of the game. All this does is add a few minutes to a rush.

This of all changes is the only one the devs made that specifically demonstrates a disconnect with the playerbase.

New runewords/skill adjustments, these are debated topics among d2 players.

But whether or not we collect organs? It wasn't something the community debated or wondered about or asked devs for.
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Jan 21 2022 06:07pm
Quote (1nick1 @ Jan 21 2022 04:05pm)
You are missing the point completely...why change this. This not skipping difficulties or uber leveling. Its a part of the game that has been that way since a long long time.

Fixing it doesn't fix skipping parts of the game. All this does is add a few minutes to a rush.

This of all changes is the only one the devs made that specifically demonstrates a disconnect with the playerbase.

New runewords/skill adjustments, these are debated topics among d2 players.

But whether or not we collect organs? It wasn't something the community debated or wondered about or asked devs for.


THANK YOU, not sure why this is so hard for people to see.

Why are people defending such an arbitrary change.

Like if they wanted to make a stance and remove Grushing entirely that makes some logical sense - this is a half assed nothing approach.

This post was edited by Nitrix on Jan 21 2022 06:09pm
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Jan 21 2022 06:10pm
Quote (1nick1 @ Jan 21 2022 05:05pm)
You are missing the point completely...why change this. This not skipping difficulties or uber leveling. Its a part of the game that has been that way since a long long time.

Fixing it doesn't fix skipping parts of the game. All this does is add a few minutes to a rush.

This of all changes is the only one the devs made that specifically demonstrates a disconnect with the playerbase.

New runewords/skill adjustments, these are debated topics among d2 players.

But whether or not we collect organs? It wasn't something the community debated or wondered about or asked devs for.


Funny to see people upset about something so minor.

I do a lot of speed running, it doesn't bother me whatsoever.
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Jan 21 2022 06:11pm
since we all know its my opinion that matters

- impale = smite but stronger, stupid af
- buff java's - already top tier pve build, not needed
+ psn jav may be more than a meme
- removed dodge lock, zons are going to be a menace pvp
- guided didnt need more dmg
- strafe didnt need more dmg
+ fire and cold arrow changes are cool, those were needed

+ fixed kicks always hitting while also allowing more player agency, good fix
+ buff ma skills, was needed
- trappers didnt need 20 free points wtf?
# unsure on Wof buffs without wsg, needs testing
+ buffing ninja stars is good fun

# unsure on warcry buffs without wsg, needs testing
+ throw buffs are good, should be fun
- leap buffs? wtf? no

+ fire druid cool down help was badly needed
# wolves and bear buffs could be problematic, needs testing

+ skelly mages buff, sure
- buff bone damage? wtf?

# holy fire didnt need buffed, might not be an issue though
# thorns changes need testing, probably still irrelevant
+ aoe scaling based on range is cool
- foh didnt need buffed, wtf?

+ nova might scale better now, still probably shit though
+ frw on blaze is interesting
+ hydra buff was needed, likely still shit though

+ love the merc buffs, dont know that any of them are enough but fun to try

+ insight in bows... sure, but a1 mercs still wont have might/holy freeze so who cares lol
- plague is meh
- pattern is shit
+ unbending will is good for what it is, helps barb play throughs which was needed
+ wisdom is an easy source of pierce and cbf for budget builds, maek is nice too
+ obsession might actually be good for lite sorcs
+ flickering flame is good
- mist isnt good enough to compete with what we already have

+ up'ing set items, sure, why not
- none of the set changes seem like enough to matter though

+ love love LOVE new level 85 areas

# blocking changes need tested
# ias changes need tested
# fhr changes... i feel like theyre trying to re-invent the wheel instead of just adding wsg back, but we'll see

- no mention of fixing ww hit check frames
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Jan 21 2022 06:11pm
Quote (WWI @ Jan 21 2022 04:10pm)
Funny to see people upset about something so minor.

I do a lot of speed running, it doesn't bother me whatsoever.


Not sure what speed running is in this context? Do you mean rushing?

Im not upset, just baffled. And i have always disliked a3 (raise your hand if you agree rofl).
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Jan 21 2022 06:17pm
Quote (1nick1 @ Jan 21 2022 05:11pm)
Not sure what speed running is in this context? Do you mean rushing?

Im not upset, just baffled. And i have always disliked a3 (raise your hand if you agree rofl).


Beating the game as fast as possible from start to finish? Have you not heard of speed running games?

Act 3 even with smashing the orb is still easier/quicker to run through than act 2.
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Jan 21 2022 06:19pm
Quote (WWI @ Jan 21 2022 04:17pm)
Beating the game as fast as possible from start to finish? Have you not heard of speed running games?

Act 3 even with smashing the orb is still easier/quicker to run through than act 2.


Except the vast majority of players don't run through either outside their first toon?

Glad you're an uber dork who likes speed running D2 but most people don't want this change.
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Jan 21 2022 06:20pm
Quote (1nick1 @ Jan 21 2022 07:11pm)
Not sure what speed running is in this context? Do you mean rushing?

Im not upset, just baffled. And i have always disliked a3 (raise your hand if you agree rofl).


A3 is the bomb bro.
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