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Feb 27 2021 01:58pm
So I asked the wife a bit ago (since she also plays d2 and is the only person I know who happens to be female AND is knowledgeable on the whole Zon situation since the announcement) her thoughts about it.. and I played devil's advocate during the conversation and expressed the view that a Zon shouldn't look like Wonder Woman and be "pretty" she should be grizzled, rough and battle-worn. Even to go so far as to say, "...maybe this is how she was supposed to look and the old d2's graphics were just too crappy to tell.."

Her replies were summed up in 2:

She (Zon) should look like the original and

No (as she walked away lol)

So that's it for me, if I can't even convince her using some of the arguments I've read here.. I got nothin 😂
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Feb 27 2021 01:59pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 27 2021 12:56pm)
The same could be said about the people that are hell bent to change them cuz 2021...

Buncha snowflakes that can't deal with the fact that this classic game is still popular and isn't scorched by their political branding iron (yet).

It's sick man


You could make that argument as well, but I think the majority of people just straight up don't care. That's the party I fall into.

Do I want her look like Gale Gadot hell yeah but I don't care either way as long as the mechanics of the game stay relativity true.
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Feb 27 2021 01:59pm
Quote (wh0racLe @ Feb 27 2021 10:26am)
When i first opened this thread I thought you were exaggerating or trolling, then I went and looked at the pictures and holy crap, OP is right.

I am surprised you focused on the Amazon and Barb because in my opinion, the worst one is the Assassin
The developers claimed in videos that they are "extremely passionate, digging through every old file and reference and content they can find to make sure D2R is as exactly close to the original vision as possible"
Yet, if this is true, why did they change the assassin to an Asian? It's obvious if you look at D2, the assassin was a white girl. A goth chick.

So if they are so focused on accuracy why would they change this? Obvious to me, some executive told them "There's too much white characters. Make one an Asian also make the Paladin a lot more black"
On top of that, they make her ugly as sin.
Is this the kind of "inclusivity" asians want? "Hey, give us a butt ugly asian character!" I don't think so. They could have at least made her attractive.


This Assassin is now Asian because she knows martial arts.
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Feb 27 2021 02:02pm
Quote (Viesh7 @ Feb 27 2021 08:58pm)
So I asked the wife a bit ago (since she also plays d2 and is the only person I know who happens to be female AND is knowledgeable on the whole Zon situation since the announcement) her thoughts about it.. and I played devil's advocate during the conversation and expressed the view that a Zon shouldn't look like Wonder Woman and be "pretty" she should be grizzled, rough and battle-worn. Even to go so far as to say, "...maybe this is how she was supposed to look and the old d2's graphics were just too crappy to tell.."

Her replies were summed up in 2:

She (Zon) should look like the original and

No (as she walked away lol)

So that's it for me, if I can't even convince her using some of the arguments I've read here.. I got nothin 😂


Ahh, thanks for the insight, what a sweet post :)
You are very lucky to have a d2 player, as a wife

I dont have that much of an issue with it btw, you see it only during char creation anyway :P
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Feb 27 2021 02:05pm
i like the more rugged ama but there should be one closer to the original (heck, could be younger and older version for each)
only necro campfire was done pretty well imo
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Feb 27 2021 02:07pm
assa didnt look enough slender enough imo vs how i imagined
on the right seems better https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/lofdj4/photoshop_of_assassin_from_diablo_2_resurrected_i/
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Feb 27 2021 02:20pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 27 2021 08:59pm)
This Assassin is now Asian because she knows martial arts.


Nope, she's now Korean cuz D2 was crazy popular in South Korea at the time. Blizzard management at it again, if they aren't pushing gender politics they're pandering to the Koreans
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Feb 27 2021 02:27pm
Quote (BebebBurns @ Feb 27 2021 01:07pm)
assa didnt look enough slender enough imo vs how i imagined
on the right seems better https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/lofdj4/photoshop_of_assassin_from_diablo_2_resurrected_i/


Looks like a lesbian vampire.
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Feb 27 2021 02:27pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 27 2021 04:20pm)
Nope, she's now Korean cuz D2 was crazy popular in South Korea at the time. Blizzard management at it again, if they aren't pushing gender politics they're pandering to the Koreans


I'm not Asian, but if i was, I don't think I would want my race to be "included" by adding a butt ugly character to represent us.
Look at the wizard from D3, she's asian and she is cute.
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Feb 27 2021 02:30pm
Quote (Ognadibik @ Feb 27 2021 02:02pm)
Ahh, thanks for the insight, what a sweet post :)
You are very lucky to have a d2 player, as a wife

I dont have that much of an issue with it btw, you see it only during char creation anyway :P



I like to think of her as a wife first and D2 player 2nd lol (wish she played more, and I haven't a clue why her favorite thing to do solo play, when I'm not around is key runs, especially H keys.. leaves me trying to get more D's and stuff to balance out the inventory.. anyway)

In all seriousness though, I personally am kinda biased/picky/OCD whatever.. like I am not thrilled the Zon boots/shin protection things are red and not gold, the paladin's armor has lost its shine etc.. I lean heavy into, "if they're taking the time to update things of less graphical importance for accuracy, why isn't the very first thing in an RPG, character selection, just as important if not more so?!" Yes I'm being picky, no it isn't near as important as how the game will "feel" when we actually go to play.. but honestly, I just want it all to be perfect - for another 20+ years for all to love ❤️
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