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Mar 1 2022 08:38am
Quote (gel87 @ 1 Mar 2022 15:34)
Im at moms house, ill check later.

Fury:

Ceiling(13*256/floor(256*(100+150)/100))-1 = max initial hit speed for fury? Base dont matter?

Ceiling(4*256/floor(256*(100+150)/100)) = max serial hit speed for fury? Base dont matter?

I dno if its like this.

The other cause would be that it uses the wep speed of druid, which would be wierd.
Staff:
17 then for paw attack
17/2*0,6 for serial frames pr direction?


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we are going to commit to the modern (Balance PTR 1) way of calculating attack speed for the wereforms. We have rebalanced the werewolf to allow that form to reach even faster speeds than it could previously.

Maybe they allow us to reach those fpa we had those crazy weeks.
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Mar 1 2022 09:03am
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Pretty happy about a lot of these. Dumb as it sounds, I'm glad they reverted Plague Jav. By reducing the duration before without keeping all the damage all they did was make it so you have to throw more.
Plague being in Daggers is an interesting win - It's no DWeb but it's a budget alternative (Cham <<<<<< Dweb.) Combined with Trang Set, rolling a 2-skiller should be sufficient.

Werewolf changes I'm cautiously optimistic. It seems like what it will do is push really high damaging weapons to the front since they'll more easily hit their cap. Hitting a higher cap than before was desperately needed I think. I wouldn't mind something in his repertoire giving him Defense though. Currently Fort is pretty much required to be hell-viable; where as a Barb I can wear literal garbage and between Shout, BO, and IS solo through the end of hell by 70-75; Druid has a hard time in Act 1/2 with all the archers lol.

I think an A5 merc with Grief + Lawbringer might be almost as good as a normal Frenzy barb haha. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we see a Paladin build where you just support your merc.

The A3 change to Redemption is actively working against it for the Necro. As it was, a Fire A3 had some chance of being fun because he'd offer you Enchants, if mediocre. Now it eats your corpses.

A very underrated change is the Holy-Bolt hitting demons. That means Venom Lord packs are on the table and a whole slew of other areas for an FoH Pally. That might be a new budget clearer since you can nuke mobs off the Magic damage and pretty much ignore the lightning part of it, then be a Zealot or something.


Lawbringer on Merc, dual grief on the barb. Sorted for decrep and all that extra damage 😏
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Mar 1 2022 09:12am
Quote (cantero @ Mar 1 2022 03:38pm)
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Maybe they allow us to reach those fpa we had those crazy weeks.


Some1 said 150 eias break with stright eias formula.

Then the question is:
Does it use the fury skill frames pr direction, like before
(13 & 4)
Or the druid wepon based frames pr direction
19 17 etc and then that / 2 * rollback reduce...

Bear will most likely be slower than werewolf nomather what..
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Mar 1 2022 09:18am
Quote (Cammz @ Mar 1 2022 09:03am)
Lawbringer on Merc, dual grief on the barb. Sorted for decrep and all that extra damage 😏


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Mar 1 2022 10:01am
Quote (gel87 @ Mar 1 2022 04:12pm)
Some1 said 150 eias break with stright eias formula.

Then the question is:
Does it use the fury skill frames pr direction, like before
(13 & 4)
Or the druid wepon based frames pr direction
19 17 etc and then that / 2 * rollback reduce...

Bear will most likely be slower than werewolf nomather what..


1 handed swing:
Ceiling(19*256/floor(256*(100+150)/100;1);1)-1 = 7

Polearm/staff:
6 fpa

Wolf will be simular as before, unless fury uses the skillbased frames pr direction... In which case it can reach 1 frame serial.

Its hard to know with so little text, but for me it looks like bear can max reach 6 fpa with polearm. 7 with 1 hand swing.

And that fury can max reach. (polearm)
4 frames serial and 6 frames paw attack.

Serial
Ceiling((17/2+1)*256/floor(256*(100+150)/100;1);1)
Paw
Ceiling(17*256/floor(256*(100+150)/100;1);1)-1

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 1 2022 10:04am
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Mar 1 2022 10:29am
Quote (Flameyes @ Feb 28 2022 05:27pm)
It’s hard not to be blinded by the fact that bowas just because the best class in the game by a factor of 17, but if you do manage it the rest of the changes seem pretty good

The guided and multi synergies should not make it into the game though, obviously



Not at all.
A titans wearing java with pgems worth of items
Clears hell cows in a few minutes
I have a windforce forti etc bowazon that cant kill shit in cows p1
Its not fair.
Bowazons need might merc or faith merc plus crazy insane expensive jewels and helmets to kill fast.
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Mar 1 2022 10:48am
Quote (matgreek111 @ Mar 1 2022 11:29am)
Not at all.
A titans wearing java with pgems worth of items
Clears hell cows in a few minutes
I have a windforce forti etc bowazon that cant kill shit in cows p1
Its not fair.
Bowazons need might merc or faith merc plus crazy insane expensive jewels and helmets to kill fast.


Jav is a pvm build, bow is a pvp build

It’s like people who complain about bone necro not clearing p8 when it’s one of the best pvp characters in the game. I can think of multiple solutions to these problems that make them viable for pvm without making them absolutely ridiculous for pvp, blizzard is just incompetent

Can’t wait for 20k guided arrows
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Mar 1 2022 12:16pm
Quote (Flameyes @ Mar 1 2022 10:48am)
Jav is a pvm build, bow is a pvp build

It’s like people who complain about bone necro not clearing p8 when it’s one of the best pvp characters in the game. I can think of multiple solutions to these problems that make them viable for pvm without making them absolutely ridiculous for pvp, blizzard is just incompetent

Can’t wait for 20k guided arrows


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Mar 1 2022 04:20pm
I am going to bump this once or twice today just to ensure people that want to see it can see it.
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Mar 1 2022 04:26pm
Quote (TheEmotionalSupport @ Mar 1 2022 04:20pm)
I am going to bump this once or twice today just to ensure people that want to see it can see it.


You're the best, emotionalsupport
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