I think it is looking good they will do “something”, but not sure that will even put us in the same spot we were, which was already bad, taking into account other classes buffs, staying the same is a net nerf

A little annoying no communication at all on what they plan to do… I do see quite a few threads suggesting we get passive FRW, that by itself would help a LOT, but with this botched attack rates it would be for nothing lol

This post was edited by oscarmk on Feb 1 2022 01:09pm

Standard Blizzard silence when their ideas are challenged.

I'm shelving the Fury indefinitely until the fix it.

it would appear the thread on the PTR feedback forum was removed, the blue post stickied one

I noticed that too lol, I guess that’s probably good?

Saw that as well, but it means literally nothing unless its replaced with an official statement from the developers. I know I sound pessimistic in all my posts, but I've really lost trust in the developer teams to do the right thing after this debacle.
Also, the post is still visible and accessible, if anyone cares to read it: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/druid-ww-and-wb-attack-speed-changes/102171

This post was edited by Koston on Feb 1 2022 04:50pm

I am slightly optimistic they might say screw this, and just go back to D2R release when we could reach 3 frames, that and passive FRW would put PvP druid in the best spot it has ever been, if we got teleport at some point we would be so much better than BvC by a big margin I think, it might actually be OP lol

This post was edited by oscarmk on Feb 1 2022 06:46pm

I'm not seeing the ability to teleport while in wereform any time in our future- I think we would be majorly lucky to even see a passive FRW boost, I'm not sure Blizz has ever even acknowledged wereform's lack of mobility (correct me if I'm wrong, I just haven't seen it)...they would have to really start listening to player feedback to even know that it was an issue. No one complained about this in LoD because like you've said in the past, 5% frw charms and .08 highlords mitigated this issue, so people complaining about mobility while in wereform is more of a recent phenomenon. I think it'll take a while for Blizz to catch onto that issue as long as we complain about it enough, but I am doing my best to retain some hope to fix the IAS issue at the very least since they have received significant backlash for it at this point

As I only play shapeshifting classes I have basically stopped playing entirely at this point because I feel its pointless to invest time/effort into a character that might be unplayable, so I'm really trying to hold out hope here.

This post was edited by Koston on Feb 1 2022 08:21pm

They're probably seeing mobility more from a pve pov than from pvp. I guess you could say feral rage adds quite a bit to mobility through additional runspeed - ofc it doesnt make up for teleport in any way and it just sucks in pvp. I doubt that they give us passive FRW which could then be enhanced with feral rage. Id really appreciate it and i miss my 08 HL every day since d2r Besides that i dont have much hope that they revert the IAS calculation. We probably get some buff as compensation which in the end still makes it worse than before.

From a pvp perspective i'd be glad to be able to hit smiters again...at all. It became close to impossible. The needed AR can be reached with some sacrifices but fury still barely hits during a combo of smites. Didnt test much to see if diminishhin returns now make it any better since i just never logged on to PTR again after seeing the IAS debacle. Someone did some testing? Also i feel like range in general is just off. A range 4 eth tomb felt like it was hitting further than it does now - since beginning of d2r actually.

I've been talking about more from a pvp standpoint, although the IAS change makes shapeshifting classes unplayable in both pvp and pvm scenarios...but mobility is more of an issue in PVP only because as you said, feral rage adds a lot of FRW but really only in a PVM scenario. I would still argue though that it is very annoying to have to charge it up for a few seconds before it is usable, then use it, and then have it fade within a few seconds as well only to have to recharge it. Other classes do not have to do this with their mobility boosts/skills as far as I know. I think that even from unbiased and objective standpoint, anyone at this point would agree its a little weird that every single other melee build can teleport if they choose...they can either charge away in the blink of an eye, leap out of screen, lol...wolves are stuck doing jack shit basically

like you, I am quite nervous that they revert these changes. although they unpinned it in their forums, their last statement did explicitly state that they deem this a beneficial change and they do not want to do anything that would sacrifice that change. And with each additional day that goes by while they continue to remain silent, i lose more optimism

This post was edited by Koston on Feb 2 2022 03:23pm