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#201
Jan 21 2022 05:10pm
Jesus, read the patch notes, waste of time. Nothing game changing. The only good thing is more 85 lvl areas. Useless runewords and like 7(?) total xD

No changes to dclone event, rest of mercaneries still useless. Big words from Blizz, patch notes 0/10

This post was edited by kill3r on Jan 21 2022 05:14pm
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#202
Jan 21 2022 05:12pm
Quote (Acuity @ Jan 21 2022 05:12pm)
I can agree with some of the things you mentioned but you lose all credibility when things like this are said to strengthen your argument.


Heh, that is one of the few points I agree with him on. Part of me wishes there were bots, so items would be less expensive, so it would be cheaper to gear out pvp chars.
Killing the same enemies over and over again for the ridiculously small chance that they drop something good is horrible. I am amazed at how many people don't even pvp, but will still continue to do this soul crushing grind.
I am pretty burnt out of mfing that now I am just hoping for a super ladder release price drop, so I can spend all my fg on gearing out a necro for pvp.

This post was edited by Eldred15 on Jan 21 2022 05:12pm
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#203
Jan 21 2022 05:16pm
Quote (Eldred15 @ Jan 21 2022 02:12pm)
Heh, that is one of the few points I agree with him on. Part of me wishes there were bots, so items would be less expensive, so it would be cheaper to gear out pvp chars.
Killing the same enemies over and over again for the ridiculously small chance that they drop something good is horrible. I am amazed at how many people don't even pvp, but will still continue to do this soul crushing grind.
I am pretty burnt out of mfing that now I am just hoping for a super ladder release price drop, so I can spend all my fg on gearing out a necro for pvp.


This game was made specifically to be a grind... look at how long it takes to hit 99, look at how long it takes to find certain items. Some people haven’t even found a soj in their 10+ years of playing the game. If you only care about pvp you’re playing the wrong game, go play some mortal kombat or fortnite.. go play an actually competitive game.
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#204
Jan 21 2022 05:20pm
Quote (BasedGoff @ Jan 21 2022 06:16pm)
This game was made specifically to be a grind... look at how long it takes to hit 99, look at how long it takes to find certain items. Some people haven’t even found a soj in their 10+ years of playing the game. If you only care about pvp you’re playing the wrong game, go play some mortal kombat or fortnite.. go play an actually competitive game.



This only applies to single player bro, d2 has some of the best trading of any online rpg out there, this site is testament to that. No need to grind when you can trade. I disagree with the bot sentiments though, more items in the trading pool means the economy tanks faster means your ladder seasons are dead that much faster
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#205
Jan 21 2022 05:24pm
Quote (Borealis123 @ Jan 21 2022 03:08pm)
I'm curious about the set item changes, for example, per the patch notes:

Vidala's Rig
Added 7% Mana Stolen Per Hit (2 Items)
Changed Adds 15-20 Cold Damage to +1-148 to Maximum Cold Damage (+1.5 Per Character Level) (Full Set)

I'm having trouble quantifying what +148 Maximum Cold Damage would do? They say in the Developer Comments:
Developer Comments: Many improvements have been made to Set items that are generally underused by players. These will offer more reasons to equip multiple of these Set pieces and to give some Sets new capabilities to make them stand out more, which further fuels more build diversity.We felt that players enjoy the current Horadric Cube recipes for upgrading Unique items, so we decided to offer the same capability for upgrading Set items. This can add more possibilities by using lower-level Set items for more character builds.

I like the direction that they are going in making the lower level set's more viable through upgrading them to elite versions via the cube, but it still doesn't feel like enough to me. Even a FULLY Upgraded Vidala's set with all elite items seem's that it would still not be viable..
ALSO, a question, are there going to be 2 Versions of each of these set items when Ladder merges to Non-Ladder? You could potentially have players running around with pre- 2.4 Vidala's Set's that don't get the added buff's of post 2.4 patch Vidala's sets? I can't see how they will implement this, it almost makes me wonder if the
set bonuses will change on both ladder and non-ladder when 2.4 is released....


In response to the Vidala's set cold damage, I believe they're just trying to implement some sort of scalability (albeit ineffective or not). Sure it might not be viable completely to the later stages of the game but baby steps are better than no steps at all in increasing utility. (which I feel is their approach to these changes)

As for conversion once the ladder ends, I feel the bonuses will stay consistent across those found in ladder and those already in NL There won't be different 'versions' of the same item. (unless upgraded ofc)
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#206
Jan 21 2022 05:30pm
Quote (Acuity @ Jan 21 2022 05:16pm)
That's exactly what they're doing.


Old ladder only runewords went core these are the new ladder only.


That's what I thought. Thanks mate!
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#207
Jan 21 2022 05:33pm
hmmm... will this rly change the Meta Builds and the endgame and things?

and where is the Lobby improvement. damn it...

This post was edited by Lortnoc on Jan 21 2022 05:34pm
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#208
Jan 21 2022 05:34pm
they were like we are gonna make lots of small tweaks, then they doubled everything and shit lol
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#209
Jan 21 2022 05:36pm
Anybody think Frost Nova will be pvm/pvp viable with 25% damage level scaling?

Frost nova/es for pvp

like 4k frost nova damage with -265 cold res

This post was edited by WWI on Jan 21 2022 05:37pm
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#210
Jan 21 2022 05:37pm
Quote (WWI @ Jan 21 2022 05:36pm)
Anybody think Frost Nova will be pvm/pvp viable with 25% damage level scaling?

Frost nova/es for pvp

like 4k frost nova damage with -215 cold res


cold never lacked aoe dmg

don't think this will really change anything, but if the increase makes it viable like nova sorc /w infinity then im all for it.

This post was edited by AlphaofAlphas on Jan 21 2022 05:37pm
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