What's your gearing for you and your merc? I've been trying out a few pure summoner builds on P8 and it seems to lack consistency...sometimes the screen will delete quickly, others it's up for 5-10 seconds. It feels like the inconsistency might be due to the defiler linking mechanics, but i'm not sure. I'm also using the A5 cursed dark lancer, i went holy freeze for extra CC (HC).

Are you using lethargy for support? Do you max out death mark? Are you using something to proc a hex, and what are you doing for health/mana sustain(just potions?)

Also - does anybody know if maxing out death mark is a meaningful damage increase?

You should absolutely be casting Lethargy — can’t speak to the rest.

I haven’t done pure summoner build but I would assume that you should also regularly cast engorge for further buffing.

And RE sustain do you mean yourself or the Demon? Because a P8 TZ lancer will not really take damage so no concerns there. For yourself I assume Pokémon builds still use ES in which case just wear insight and equip a BK ring or if you can’t afford one any LL ring. ES with LL is in fine health glitch … but with 2 defiles and maxed blood oath you really shouldn’t take much damage.

Ideally you want a merc with might and pride.

You have to use lethargy (at least 20 counting +skills for a larger aoe) in each pack, it really makes a difference.

For now, I'm using potions for sustain. I don't know if there's anything better you could use. I have 1 point in ES and another point in the first Hex for the -% defense debuff, but I don't know if it's necessary. Maybe just with Lethargy and Death's Mark it's enough to reduce defense completely.

Perhaps a little life leech with a Bulkatos is the key, as Stalanium suggested. I don't know if Blood Boil regenerates health, maybe with the last hex...

Edit: I just faced against Diablo Clone and it felt like my current Demon was still missing some hits...

This post was edited by Thoroku92 on Mar 17 2026 08:10am

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defiler link has a cooldown, recasting seems to make them cast faster but i dont know for sure

That would explain it being high damage per hit if its multiplied by amp. And for whatever reason I can clearly see rogue multishot arrows miss their target when blood star has very tight grouping and hits 3 times. That and %block/miss. But yeah puts a clear advantage to succubi, not that it matters

lethargy is not needed, no hexes, just use 2 defilers and the screen melts. No hexes or sigils as they die before it can be cast, maybe for a boss or a herald.

I max demon/mastery and then the blood boil synergies. I added 1 point to lethargy and 1 point to consume (I like to consume a demon while hunting for pokemon and run faster than you can teleport lol) Currently +39 bind demon.

currently using horazon set +ondal and like a few skillers (maybe 3?) I do not have a torch, but I do have an anni

lvl 95


best binds depend on playstyle (but cursed is mandatory)

when you want to afk demon clear = fan
when you want to be a little more active and blood boil with demon = conviction

runner up auras until you get one of the above? = holy freeze/holy fire/holy lightning or w/e it is called (these tick damage every second or so and amp the whole screen with a tz96 bind)






I think this is the best build in the game in terms of fun, because you get to play 2 roles (badass demon summoner who literally can afk clear p8 96tz or a blood boil build who also can solo clear p8 tz96)

This post was edited by L8z. on Mar 17 2026 10:43am

I mean every build uses hexes insofar as 1 point hex siphon is just an 8+ minute long free maek buff. Max engorge on demon builds benefit doubly so

My normal is to cast, defiler, swap, battle command, battle orders, swap, hex siphon, then aim cursor away from urdar and cast tainted + consume on the same spot. Its all a couple seconds

It's a silly argument. "Echoing doesn't need hexes it already does so much damage".

Yeah well, Hephasto doesn't need Blood Oath he's already immortal. I like using Purge.

You dont max blood oath for demon hp

Would you prefer the same statement pertaining to the extra 35% of energy shield?