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Lol. I might just make an insane mind/fire blast assassin for PvM. Though probably not because it's such a chore to actually get and stay logged into battlenet.
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Quote (Jackalkix @ Nov 3 2021 12:17pm)
can anyone explain in tldr?


tl:dr
with phaseblade base items + fana aura 27+ you need 48% ias on gear to reach 5 fpa and 194% ias to reach 4 fpa

with berzerk axe base items + fana aura 27+ you need 138% ias on gear to reach 5 fpa

other effect of this:
d2 lod: any grief would reach max 6 fpa
d2r: is the same for 6fpa, but now you want reach 5 fpa imo

ie: i have a grief and only want put a jewel of 15%ias on my gear: grief 33 + ias 15 = 48 ias% needed to reach 5 fpa
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Quote (ThoroBR @ 3 Nov 2021 08:36)
tl:dr
with phaseblade base items + fana aura 27+ you need 48% ias on gear to reach 5 fpa and 194% ias to reach 4 fpa


First, this is a great thread. Period.
Second, a math question... if I'm using a flail (Black), which is -10 speed vs the -30 on a PB, do I just add 20% IAS to reach the 5fpa breakpoint?
(Thus, 68% IAS on gear?)
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Nov 3 2021 10:02am
Nope

you can't reduce the wsm with anything (just bugs), so if you use a flail (-10 wsm) you need calc with this thats why bases in d2 is so important

so for flail -10 you would need 99% ias to reach 5fpa, now you can use gear ias such runes, gloves, ammys and weapons
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Quote (Coldswede @ Nov 3 2021 08:36am)
could be some shenanigans with the fps since blaze damage apparently scales by fps now hence why people are able to instakill ubers with firewall sorc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x81LbBIgh3g&t



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Nov 3 2021 11:04am
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 3 2021 06:32am)
hero editor? thx neeerd :P
@topic
to achieve 5 fpa with only 46%ias like your video your fana aura must be in 38ias (lvl36+)
(120*(101 - 38 + -30)) / (120 - (101 - 38 + -30) = 45,51724137... = 46%ias
-> i wouldn't recommend use so high aura lvl, because fana aura has diminishing returns, so would take too much, thats why i use 37ias% (fana 27+) prolly fana 22 will work too i need some test for this one

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this is why hero editor is best
cuz I show u video evidence and instead you rely on assumptions based on puny math instead smh
--I'm using phaseblade with no stats other than 40ias, weapon ias acts the same as gear ias from what I've tried



This post was edited by dumyguy on Nov 3 2021 11:07am
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there is no puny math, only right and wrong, all we have is the math provided by the files, how you would test this without math? +1% speed charms and cheering to see the speed?

with only your video you cant explain nothing, really nothing because how you can say what is 7, 6, 5 or 4 fpa? or how you could even try 27 fana aura with pb without someone try to show a north?

overall the video lack 2 things, bnet server and non hero editor, i believe the video can be right because this is d2r and not d2lod full code, but as i said, you can't do tests with "see is faster" you need math..

and tbh i was joking with you, idk even why you go in salty mode.. and again thx for your time doing tests, if you wanna continue i'll be glad to see fana 27 + phaseblade in 194 too because is the same formula
you can't have 2 variable results with the same formula, unless is a server issues, thats why math wins, no hurt feelings of me tbf, keep posting ty
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Nov 3 2021 11:53am
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 3 2021 10:17am)
there is no puny math, only right and wrong, all we have is the math provided by the files, how you would test this without math? +1% speed charms and cheering to see the speed?

with only your video you cant explain nothing, really nothing because how you can say what is 7, 6, 5 or 4 fpa? or how you could even try 27 fana aura with pb without someone try to show a north?

overall the video lack 2 things, bnet server and non hero editor, i believe the video can be right because this is d2r and not d2lod full code, but as i said, you can't do tests with "see is faster" you need math..

and tbh i was joking with you, idk even why you go in salty mode.. and again thx for your time doing tests, if you wanna continue i'll be glad to see fana 27 + phaseblade in 194 too because is the same formula
you can't have 2 variable results with the same formula, unless is a server issues, thats why math wins, no hurt feelings of me tbf, keep posting ty


math puny, prob rounding error, it's always rounding
first video had breakpoints at 46 and 194 both with fanaticism lvl 27 and phaseblade
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Nov 3 2021 04:12pm
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 3 2021 08:36am)
tl:dr
with phaseblade base items + fana aura 27+ you need 48% ias on gear to reach 5 fpa and 194% ias to reach 4 fpa

with berzerk axe base items + fana aura 27+ you need 138% ias on gear to reach 5 fpa

other effect of this:
d2 lod: any grief would reach max 6 fpa
d2r: is the same for 6fpa, but now you want reach 5 fpa imo

ie: i have a grief and only want put a jewel of 15%ias on my gear: grief 33 + ias 15 = 48 ias% needed to reach 5 fpa


How much would you want to stack for vtpk when facing slow from item or hf
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