Quote (readTheBible @ Oct 21 2021 06:18am)

very certain you have enough dex for phase BEFORE reaching max block

it does not take less than 136 for max block, iirc, even using a sacred targe (therefore you will have the same amount of life using phase blade or zerker)

boosting extra into hs is pointless for a tiny def and increase and perhaps 1-2% blocks (i'd rather use it for other auras like salv or even a passive light or cold max res boost like you get from res cold/light auras (or fire also if you choose))

that def only good in melee vs melee and even with super high def exiles (which you can't get anymore..) + their def. aura it was the lifetap which kept you alive vs melee barbs not the def (yes, it helped. obviously. just saying..)




however, the opposite argument of what you made is actually true

138 str for zerker ax, in some builds, will cause you to waste str, thus giving you points for vit, and therefore less hp than a phase blade

these type of builds will usually be using a gaze for dr (ofc they all use dungos),

coa(ber ber) @ 31 dr + 15 dungo = 46

vamp(ber) @ 28 dr + 15 dungo = 43 : viable.. (pb = more hp than zerker here)

.08 vamp(ber) @ 33 dr + 15 dungo = 48 (supreme: more hp than coa setup by far! in this case you will use a pb also)

Quote (JetStorms @ Oct 21 2021 06:19am)

wow sick explanation, thanks a lot

Quote (readTheBible @ Oct 21 2021 06:23am)

no doubt i edited it for readability a little better on the last page

but ya man just like with my name

the things i espouse are accurate and true

and learned thru much work and research



i don't just blindly believe (anything) anyone tells me

i research to find the truth


which is also why i named myself this

in this hopes others will also ^@^

Quote (JetStorms @ Oct 21 2021 06:24am)

I try to find the answers normally, but sometimes I struggle finding the truth haha

Quote (readTheBible @ Oct 21 2021 08:18pm)

very certain you have enough dex for phase BEFORE reaching max block

it does not take less than 136 for max block, iirc, even using a sacred targe
(therefore you will have the same amount of life using phase blade or zerker)

boosting extra into hs is pointless for a mediocre def increase and perhaps 2-3% blocks
(i'd rather use it for other auras like salv or even a passive light or cold max res boost like you get from res cold/light auras (or fire also if you choose))

that extra def is only good in melee vs melee anyways and even with super high def exiles (which you can't get anymore..) + their def. aura it was still the lifetap which kept you alive vs melee barbs not the def
(yes, it helped. obviously. just saying..)




however, the opposite argument of what you made is actually true

138 str for zerker ax, in some builds, will cause you to waste str, thus giving you less points for vit, and therefore less hp than a phase blade

these type of builds will usually be using a gaze for dr (ofc they all use dungos),

coa(ber ber) @ 31 dr + 15 dungo = 46

vamp(ber) @ 28 dr + 15 dungo = 43 : viable.. (pb = more hp than zerker here)

.08 vamp(ber) @ 33 dr + 15 dungo = 48 (supreme: more hp than coa setup by far! in this case you will use a pb also)

Quote (Sov422 @ Oct 21 2021 06:42am)

Shouldn’t need to add a single stat to strength with enigma - torch, anni, enigma will allow you to wear everything with every point to vitality. Perhaps on some other less optimal builds you’d waste strength.

Ideally you want every single point to vitality, max Dr etc.

Granted I played a smiter so many years ago, I can barely remember 😣

Quote (readTheBible @ Oct 21 2021 08:51pm)

and i am an elite smiter which used them extensively since the early days of d2 and used to maintain mutiple smiters before we had infinite respecs

1 uber 1 gm 1 bm smiter


and would respec as needed sometimes if got that big of a gear boost within a season making it necessary.. (or twice even)



..and came back many times to this game and destroyed rooms full of players 2 v 6 or 1 v 7 (depending if i had alt pc for 55 bo at the time) ;)

over and over again

came back many times leveled up powered up then gave it all away to "quit" forever


forget accounts buy new ones come back do it all again forget jsps also lol



but although a smiter must always keep enigma in the stash for escape from annoying bone prisons, the idea you could rely on it for str is wrong

your main armor is fortitude, because of the +ed, therefore your main armor is fortitude, without exception


however, even tho the potential ed is greater with phoenix, (moving on to shields since it's related thru ed),
one might ask "why not phoenix over hoz/exile/4um'dStarge/spirit" ALWAYS

the reason it's only best SOMETIMES, SITUATIONALLY, it because smite has 6fpa (frames per attack)
and the incessant firestorm of phoenix (which has 10 fpa) will actually LOWER THE ATTACK SPEED of smite

situationally, it can still be superior: is another tool to keep in the stash


but ya i gave this extra information on top to help anyone having trouble seeing to see clearly

the difference between extremely knowledgeable speech


and (no offense) but confused speech as your own


in your defense you did admit that you didn't know

well, now you know =)


cheers bro :D

Quote (Sov422 @ Oct 21 2021 06:53am)

Clearly this is a personal point for you haha, all good bro debates are nice. Agree to disagree 👍

Quote (readTheBible @ Oct 21 2021 08:58pm)

what do you disagree with me on?

..and personal point?

no i just stating the facts: your words reveal you just caught feelings

and it became "personal"

i.e. you're triggered and upset because i calmly rationally politely and kindly corrected a mistake you made

calm down bro, it's ok :P





also, you said this


"Ideally you want every single point to vitality, max Dr etc."



so dr (damage reduction) comes from items only: i outlined their sources on a professional smiter just earlier in this thread (coa/vgaze/dungos)

the ideal setup (for most builds, and all smiters) is 0 into str, enough into block for *max* block (75%), and the rest into vitality


your "etc.", what did it mean?

i know the answer : that you're answering without having real knowledge; the way you see is vague and blurry

..i speak with clarity...


instead of being angry about this, learn from it


i am not trying to hurt you my brother =/

Quote (Sov422 @ Oct 21 2021 06:59am)

Why are you writing big essay responses. I really don’t care about this enough lol stop taking it personally