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#21
Sep 29 2021 02:11pm
Quote (tshooter @ Sep 29 2021 04:09pm)
Urdars can stunlock you though. So gotta watch for that. Especially with the save and exit button being smaller than my peckerafter a January swim


Yep its also why i don't really like doing meph. I usually just feel like i have to walk it. Even without dolls, urdars with strong modifiers can easily kill you
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Sep 29 2021 02:11pm
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A lot of this depends on how much damage reduce you're running. I got hit by a NM doll for 200 hp even with 13% dr. If you accidently pop a hell doll, or your merc kills two of them, you risk dying while going to hell meph. Max block will also help you a lot provided you have adequate hp/DR vs dolls.

I've seen a level 80+ sorc who had tals ammy/spirit/tal armor die to NM dolls in Meph durance while rushing me and two other people. If you're sub 1k hp, you're definitely in danger.

I'm usually running around in underrated cardboard so i tend to skip areas where they can spawn dolls.

You can however figure out whether durance two has dolls in it by a process of elimination if you don't see them immediately. Durance only spawns three monster types like Baal Throne room, so if you see blood lord/decayed/urdar then there will be no dolls and its much safer.


my lvl 84 died yesterday to this exactly
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Sep 29 2021 02:12pm
Quote (FORt-HOBO @ Sep 29 2021 03:57pm)
A lot of this depends on how much damage reduce you're running. I got hit by a NM doll for 200 hp even with 13% dr. If you accidently pop a hell doll, or your merc kills two of them, you risk dying while going to hell meph. Max block will also help you a lot provided you have adequate hp/DR vs dolls.

I've seen a level 80+ sorc who had tals ammy/spirit/tal armor die to NM dolls in Meph durance while rushing me and two other people. If you're sub 1k hp, you're definitely in danger.

I'm usually running around in underrated cardboard so i tend to skip areas where they can spawn dolls.

You can however figure out whether durance two has dolls in it by a process of elimination if you don't see them immediately. Durance only spawns three monster types like Baal Throne room, so if you see blood lord/decayed/urdar then there will be no dolls and its much safer.


Better to drop the merc and/or take off his weapon if you don't have good DR (like stormshield etc.). The doll explosion is the biggest threat while teleporting to meph, other than accidentally teleporting into some fanat/curse/extra strong/extra fast/etc. doll/urdar pack. If you do the latter just leave the game and don't risk it. Dolls are more annoying because your merc can one shot them if he has a good weapon and blow you up.

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Sep 29 2021 02:12pm
Quote (UgnsVante @ Sep 29 2021 04:10pm)
u do cows/trav as cold sorc? how da feck?


Its actually pretty easy(at least cows for sure). I was sort of surprised because i added hell trav recently. Heirophants can't be peirced though and if there are bad packs i just skip it.
I also maxed cold mastery and right now cold mastery allows you to pierce immunities whereas before it didn't i think.
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Sep 29 2021 02:13pm
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Better to drop the merc and/or take off his weapon. The doll explosion is the biggest threat while teleporting to meph, other than accidentally teleporting into some fanat/curse/extra strong/extra fast/etc. doll/urdar pack. If you do the latter just leave the game and don't risk it. Dolls are more annoying because your merc can one shot them if he has a good weapon and blow you up.


This is true but you gotta manage that mana generation since it means no insight. I just think the odds of running into urdars with might/fana usually means its not worth it. I've almost died to teleporting like a smidge bit too close to normal packs of monsters and if you aren't ready with a juv you really risk dying.

I recommend always teleing with walk instead of run so you can block, and it makes it harder to overshoot where you want to go and pull something nasty.

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Sep 29 2021 02:13pm
Quote (FORt-HOBO @ Sep 29 2021 03:11pm)
Yep its also why i don't really like doing meph. I usually just feel like i have to walk it. Even without dolls, urdars with strong modifiers can easily kill you



For sure. I already made a macro for faster save and exit. It’s literally 2x the field of view as legacy with a TINY save and exit… I’ve lost two sorcs to stunlock from deathlords and missing the save and exit by a hair…. Literally anywhere in the middle 1/6 of screen vertically in legacy’s now it’s middle 10% vertically, AND middle 15% horizontal. lint a fan of new save and exit
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#27
Sep 29 2021 02:14pm
Quote (FORt-HOBO @ Sep 29 2021 10:12pm)
Its actually pretty easy(at least cows for sure). I was sort of surprised because i added hell trav recently. Heirophants can't be peirced though and if there are bad packs i just skip it.
I also maxed cold mastery and right now cold mastery allows you to pierce immunities whereas before it didn't i think.


yea i heard about cold mastery being bugged atm
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#28
Sep 29 2021 02:15pm
Quote (UgnsVante @ Sep 29 2021 12:30pm)
Currently playing soso

Im doing andy, Ancient tunnels, Meph, Pindle. Rinse and repeat
I heard some ppl are doing shenk/eldritch/pindle then just remake game, since there isint no realm down anymore.

Whats the most efficient way to go about this now?



There no more realm down? Man I’m definitely getting back on. What about reset? Are they still doing resets?
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#29
Sep 29 2021 02:16pm
Quote (tshooter @ Sep 29 2021 04:13pm)
For sure. I already made a macro for faster save and exit. It’s literally 2x the field of view as legacy with a TINY save and exit… I’ve lost two sorcs to stunlock from deathlords and missing the save and exit by a hair…. Literally anywhere in the middle 1/6 of screen vertically in legacy’s now it’s middle 10% vertically, AND middle 15% horizontal. lint a fan of new save and exit


Deathlords are scary even if they're not part of a champion pack. Hit hard and fast. Being ready to recognize when you need to S/E is like half the battle. Sometimes you can't juve your way out of what you got yourself into. I walk baal throne rooms. You can easily die in Worldstone 2/3/throne.

There are a lot of things that can kill you if you aren't sufficiently geared. Teleport is more of a defensive skill when you're playing in that zone. Otherwise its the easiest way to die.

Also, the people who use occy are either incredibly brave or crazy. One of the worst items you can use.

This post was edited by FORt-HOBO on Sep 29 2021 02:18pm
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Sep 29 2021 02:16pm
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yea i heard about cold mastery being bugged atm


I'm not sure if its bugged actually - but rather the old version was bugged and now its working as intended for better of worse? I guess we'll know eventually.
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