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Jul 15 2026 11:30am
I’ve thought about putting my heavens light on swap. Maybe keep a cube in stash for BO?


im not following you. you'd want heavens light as a mainhand weap and run a cta on swap... no cube needed since it isnt an mf farmer and run as many charms as you can.
if you dont need to max anything else out, you want more and more life...

if youve got lw or a grief, you ought to be using one of those.

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Jul 15 2026 11:32am
im not following you. you'd want heavens light as a mainhand weap and run a cta on swap... no cube needed since it isnt an mf farmer and run as many charms are you can.

if youve got lw or a grief, you ought to be using one of those.


Fair point.

I use LW and kill very quickly.

I was just thinking maybe that last little [] health would go faster with a diff wep
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Jul 15 2026 11:33am
Fair point.

I use LW and kill very quickly.

I was just thinking maybe that last little [] health would go faster with a diff wep


what is your LW smiter setup if you don't mind me asking?
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Jul 15 2026 11:35am
Fair point.

I use LW and kill very quickly.

I was just thinking maybe that last little [] health would go faster with a diff wep


not worth it, just run one or the other. the difference in time it will take to finish off the ubers is pretty negligible for most players.

i think the argument for lw would be alot stronger, if you couldnt get all the other things it provides from other sources. but since you can pre-buff fade and have other ways of getting lifetap into the build, grief is easily no.1 imho
if your weapon swap doesnt need to be a cta since youve got a friend or a bo barb, a life tap wand is a solid option. you can then run grief and skip exile and/or draculs.

i normally run gores and gface + grief. thats enough cb for me. the other thing that bugs me about lw, is no ias...

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Jul 15 2026 12:58pm
Thanks for the fun fact, useful.

If I do use last wish /w 69% cb...then I dont need all the gulls helm + gore rider/ goblin toes since ill have more than 100% cb right? Maybe a goblin toe to get me to 94%?

That will free up a helm for something like a coa maybe?


69 cb pb last wish & 20ias gloves with 6%+ cb & goblin toes = 100% cb and 6fpa smite with fanat

If you're just doing DC, you prob won't need enigma, so you don't have nearly as much str. That makes CoA a big str investment, but it's still fine to use. Shako is good too.
I would recommend fort & phoenix to maximize dmg. Add some source of Cannot Be Frozen (cham/ravenfrost).

Just be sure to charge DC (or w.e) to proc Prevent Monster Heal, unless you have open wounds somewhere else.
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Jul 15 2026 08:19pm
if you dont want to use treachery for fade you could use lw until fade procs then swap to grief


this is like buying a Ferrari to use the heater lmao

Last wish should never even be made in the entire game


gamers love swinging 3 enigmas worth of runes and being worse than the word that uses 1/20th of that
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Jul 15 2026 08:58pm
Which is the better weapon for smiter, predominantly for killing dclone?
Grief PB or Last Wish PB?


Yes, by far.

I’m also a rather large fan of the Shacko with bert rune to pair it with.

This will pair you with best in possible theory crafting slot and quality of life, kill speed, and Shacko has +2 skills with MF bonus too.
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Jul 15 2026 10:02pm
If you only plan on killing Dclone - Grief 100%. Life tap is only needed if you are doing Uber Tristram or Colossal Ancients.
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Jul 15 2026 10:08pm
Thanks for the fun fact, useful.

If I do use last wish /w 69% cb...then I dont need all the gulls helm + gore rider/ goblin toes since ill have more than 100% cb right? Maybe a goblin toe to get me to 94%?

That will free up a helm for something like a coa maybe?


If I could choose, I'd go with LW. And DClone is easy compared to Ubers(Tristram and Ancients).

While I haven't checked the BPs but I'll consider something like Horazon Gloves + Boots, Duress, TGods if I do Ubers.
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Jul 16 2026 02:58am
Last Wish can make any smite build work with any gear, it's fun to use and level 17 might adds some extra damage. Swapping gear around constantly to make a build work is my least favorite way to play, so not having to swap treachery (or forgetting to) is nice. Every mod on LW is relevant and useful.

Grief is injecting +400 damage, deadly strike + other mods is useless on smite and the gear needed to run it is more "involved" requiring particular pieces with no substitutes.

Dual LW A5 Frenzy merc with stacked level 34 might is a tanky beast that's also fun. I use it on 2 builds, one being an Uber smiter I can swap grief with my fade prematurely fades...
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