And why gface instead arreat? Only for cb?

Deadly strike + cb

Many overpower for melee built

Yeah cb is amazing, also 15ds
In p8 most of your damage is coming from cb

Arreat is nice I personally use beast + edeath zerker + arreat since I dont need cb from helm
Its less good though

i just swap to dual hoto for bo+ tele

dual wizpike seems better to me

i've honestly tried so many variations with WW barb, and at the end of the day, it really cannot reliably kill most P8 T5 herald packs. just not enough sustain or tank

Hoto so you don’t miss out on 6 skills of Bo/find item

This is outdated

This but I prefer arach to hit 37 fcr bp on dps side. Sometimes you want to cast warcry or lethargy, or tele to adjust position without weap swapping. Also allows you to hit 105 fcr on swap with hoto + spirit, which is a lot more mana than dual hoto.

Re cham vs protector stone in gface is a wash. Dps prbly very little difference vs gores but 5% exp is huge

Since no one mention the poison dmg given by sc in combo with grief i assume it is not so cool

Yeah poison charms do not work well with venom
Dont try it
Just us max damage and the new sunder



Yeah just need to swap for stone and use the horazon boots