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Mar 11 2026 12:44pm
I meant as far as the other bonuses. Im not a fan of enigma on a javazon, I think there are better armors out there like Hustle. Javazon armor is sort of an open ended imo. Aside from teleport, I dont think enigma is great. CoH isn't bad, it feels like there isnt a smoking gun for my mana hungry snu snu


+2 all skills
str based on char lvl
mf based on char lvl
8%dr
life on kill
45%runwalk
5%max life
and 750+ hard defense, not ed%..

youre right, enigma without teleport just sucks... :blink:

cost aside, the added ias from hustle is easily made up elsewhere

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Mar 11 2026 12:48pm
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Mar 11 2026 01:18pm
I meant as far as the other bonuses. Im not a fan of enigma on a javazon, I think there are better armors out there like Hustle. Javazon armor is sort of an open ended imo. Aside from teleport, I dont think enigma is great. CoH isn't bad, it feels like there isnt a smoking gun for my mana hungry snu snu

Your op was somehow less retarded than this :lol:
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Mar 11 2026 01:42pm
Your op was somehow less retarded than this :lol:


Did you expect anything less?
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Mar 11 2026 03:33pm
Your op was somehow less retarded than this :lol:


:rofl: so good
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Mar 11 2026 03:41pm
Seems im not articulating my points well enough. Oh well.
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damn, came back and after smoking more crack .

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Mar 11 2026 04:08pm
Seems im not articulating my points well enough. Oh well.


i mean, its difficult to get people to agree with you when youre wrong.
you can prefer to wear something other than enigma, by all means go ahead, but to say that it sucks for javazon, is simply incorrect.

and yes, hustle is great armor for zons, especially physical bowzons, but enigma beat its for sure.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Mar 11 2026 04:09pm
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Mar 11 2026 04:12pm
I meant as far as the other bonuses. Im not a fan of enigma on a javazon, I think there are better armors out there like Hustle. Javazon armor is sort of an open ended imo. Aside from teleport, I dont think enigma is great. CoH isn't bad, it feels like there isnt a smoking gun for my mana hungry snu snu


I kind of get what you’re saying. I’ve made a few builds where I opted for a tele charge amulet so I could use duress or something that I thought was better for whatever toon. In the end though I always end up with enigma again. On paper it looks like there are better options, but everyone and their dog use enigma for a reason. It’s bis for most builds.
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