I mean if you had infinite budget and the only consideration was hero editor affixes, sure, 4/40/450 ed javas can give you more mana leech on fury than tstrokes. And instead of just MAEK and a large pool and some minor leech, you get a pretty major leech. But you lose a considerable % of overall damage because you miss the -15% resists on tstrokes. Maybe it enables an easier %ias bp but eh, even if you ignored the 10 million fg cost I think the higher damage build is still better. You pretty much cap out on mana when you can use wizspike swap to teleport, cube cta, MAEK on silks/gloves. You can sacrifice 1 skills on gloves over 3/20 for mana, you can sacrifice 1 skiller for cube to have cube cta and wizspike. Then you sacrifice 15 -res to have mana from insanely expensive java over merc. At least sacrificing a ring slot to fcr makes sense to lose 1 skill to get -1 bp on teleport, while using spirit means sacrificing huge amounts of damage to have faster teleport.
but phoenix on swap means really slowing yourself down, it should never be triggering. And arachs means losing a HUGE amount of dps on fury as you no longer have 100% pierce.
There are tradeoffs that are worth it, and tradeoffs that aren't


just go simple

tstrokes, griffs, enigma, craft ammy, 20/20 shield, razortail, fcr ring, raven, 3/20 gloves, silkweave, 7 skillers, light sunder, cube.
swap wizspike/spirit with cta in stash
a2 holy freeze merc with infinity, COH, flickering flame

best to get mana leech / MAEK on the crafts/rares but you get what you get

This post was edited by Goomshill on Dec 28 2025 11:20am

Up eth titan or not? Pros.and cons

pro: more leech

con: ???

Tstroke is a million times better than that

Con being it's nearly twice the stat dump.

Also who the fuck stacks fcr on a PvE zon? Y'all out of touch 😂😂

the leech is far more useful than the extra points you have to stat for dex

Depends if you want slightly more damage or qol

Im pretty sure you would play with a rare jav like this if you had the choice between the 2 right?

rare java is never the best option

qol = titan

best dmg = tstroke (but you need to repair between games so have someone else teleport to for example chaos in the meantime)

a jav like that would be paired with trang gloves and razortail, not the trash build you posted

still no

This post was edited by Dolphy on Dec 28 2025 02:05pm

You’ll have points in dex for block and you’ll have enough str from gear. It costs you exactly 0 extra stat points to upgrade your titans. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Fcr is to make you tele faster and getting 68 fcr is easy since griffs and spirit are already great items. It’s not “stacking fcr”

How are people like you so clueless when this topic has already been discussed and explained to death

This post was edited by Void511 on Dec 28 2025 02:16pm