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Spreading some pretty crazy misinfo here.


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First thing…
Mf is bad.
More mf means less profit.
Not only because it normally means slowing down you clear speed but mostly because the most valuable items are bases, magic, rares, scs/gcs, hrs.
Mf has either no impact or even negative impact, turning potential good drops into trash sets/uniques more often than it end up actually being profitable.

If you tell me that you don’t care about the above fact, I can try to help you get some mf in there.
I just recommend learning what’s valuable first.
If you want to farm a bunch of too common and hard to sell 5fgs items, sure… go for it :p


Not negatively affected by mf. Your claim is that the increase in drops for magic/rare/unique/set items is completely offset by base items which simply isnt true.
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griff is your main upgrade, but you also really need 105fcr (looks like you don't respect breakpoints)

curse is a big bonus fr your merc, he needs to be prayer which will give you a tripple heal stacked aura


IMO great build except for the small charms, any SC's should be mana charms.
Amulet could alternatively be swapped out for a 2/10 sorc amulet with other useful affixes.

The CTA staff in that link is practically impossible to obtain but a regular CTA and Lidless can suffice too.

Ideally your mana pool should be around or over 3k after BO.
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Not negatively affected by mf. Your claim is that the increase in drops for magic/rare/unique/set items is completely offset by base items which simply isnt true.


Oh but it is very true, trust me.
Don't get fooled by all those mf% curve charts you see out there.

Whenever you play a density destroyer like a nova sorc, you end up killing mostly regular mobs.
They'd normally drop almost exclusively white items. (which is great)
Add anywhere between 150 to 800+ mf and suddenly all those potential good bases are trash blue not worth id'ing.
Regular mobs just practically won't drop anything else than trash as soon as you try to pump your mf.

15% sup eth or non-eth armors / helms / weapons for all the RWs
45@ auric shields
mosaic bases, all staffmodable bases
The list is very long and it's extremely more probable that any of those items, part of a much longer list than the trash blue, are in the end worth something.

Champs/unique will never drop white bases.
They're in the right spot, around 100mf, to drop the most potentially valuables : rares
You'd prefer your gg rare ring to be instead a cathan/angelic or a nagel/manald? No lol
99% of sets/unique are charsi food.
The rest is some very common gear that people want early ladder, but those commonly wanted sets/uniques drop in value extremely fast.
The rares grow in value as the pvp community is looking for the juicy stuff.

Mf is for week 1 of ladder reset.
Then?...
You make profit by a mix of these 2 things :
killing a fucking lot of stuff fast (which no high mf build can do)
knowing what are the potential good drops among all the trash (which most people are completely unaware of)

When you stay in the 0 to 150% range, you end up with more items worth picking up and a higher average resell value per item picked up (and I'm not even talking about the increased clear speed that should naturally come with it)

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IMO great build except for the small charms, any SC's should be mana charms.
Amulet could alternatively be swapped out for a 2/10 sorc amulet with other useful affixes.

The CTA staff in that link is practically impossible to obtain but a regular CTA and Lidless can suffice too.

Ideally your mana pool should be around or over 3k after BO.


Yeah like I said in the next post :

The only thing that can really be switched is boots and cta side and scs/gcs


1) this cta staff is just showing some random potential mods, but ES is the only one that really matters ofc. (anyway, frozen armor would have been better and TS is pretty useless/annoying)
No es base? Sure, cta + lidless/splendor is always a nice option

2) some gg rare/crafted boots would be better, and in that case, if lower str req, I wouldnt upgrade the viper/magefist

3) I know, mana scs are generally just better... but when you reach a point where your gear is as good as shown here, the only remaining real treat are souls. This inventory can definitely let you survive them, while never putting you in danger of dying vs anything else even if it has a bit less mana than with some 20/17's
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Question, if I wanted to add in MF how would I switch up some here?


boots, either rare or spend some str for wts. gheed, amu and scs. getting around 200 isn't impossible

mf is fun but it's just not that effective on a build like nova with so many locked in core items.

IMO great build except for the small charms, any SC's should be mana charms.
Amulet could alternatively be swapped out for a 2/10 sorc amulet with other useful affixes.

The CTA staff in that link is practically impossible to obtain but a regular CTA and Lidless can suffice too.

Ideally your mana pool should be around or over 3k after BO.


scs: frw + poison res is underrated. more mana past ~2.5k is probably not going to make a whole lot of difference unless you're scrapping against souls all the time

amu: +1 light sk damage and +1 ES does more for you than anything a ridiculously expensive 2/10 add craft has to offer

cta: +2 es staff bases are cheap af and still gets you +1 es over a cta + lidless swap. a plain +3 es staff goes for around 100. other staff mods past that aren't worth paying for

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Oh but it is very true, trust me.
Don't get fooled by all those mf% curve charts you see out there.

Whenever you play a density destroyer like a nova sorc, you end up killing mostly regular mobs.
They'd normally drop almost exclusively white items. (which is great)
Add anywhere between 150 to 800+ mf and suddenly all those potential good bases are trash blue not worth id'ing.
Regular mobs just practically won't drop anything else than trash as soon as you try to pump your mf.

15% sup eth or non-eth armors / helms / weapons for all the RWs
45@ auric shields
mosaic bases, all staffmodable bases
The list is very long and it's extremely more probable that any of those items, part of a much longer list than the trash blue, are in the end worth something.

Champs/unique will never drop white bases.
They're in the right spot, around 100mf, to drop the most potentially valuables : rares
You'd prefer your gg rare ring to be instead a cathan/angelic or a nagel/manald? No lol
99% of sets/unique are charsi food.
The rest is some very common gear that people want early ladder, but those commonly wanted sets/uniques drop in value extremely fast.
The rares grow in value as the pvp community is looking for the juicy stuff.

Mf is for week 1 of ladder reset.
Then?...
You make profit by a mix of these 2 things :
killing a fucking lot of stuff fast (which no high mf build can do)
knowing what are the potential good drops among all the trash (which most people are completely unaware of)

When you stay in the 0 to 150% range, you end up with more items worth picking up and a higher average resell value per item picked up (and I'm not even talking about the increased clear speed that should naturally come with it)


If you’re so smart why is your fg so low? :rolleyes:

Everyone knows those with most fg are most knowledgeable players
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If you’re so smart why is your fg so low? :rolleyes:

Everyone knows those with most fg are most knowledgeable players


Been playing SSF since… almost forever lol (I played only for ~5 hours in classic with a friend this ladder reset but that’s it)
And now, as a dad, I barely have time to play an hour per week so…

But the 2 first years I created my account I had over 2M fgs in/out, no bots.

I guess I spent my knowledge as I spent my fgs :cry:

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Mar 25 2025 06:11am
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Been playing SSF since… almost forever lol (I played only for ~5 hours in classic with a friend this ladder reset but that’s it)
And now, as a dad, I barely have time to play an hour per week so…

But the 2 first years I created my account I had over 2M fgs in/out, no bots.

I guess I spent my knowledge as I spent my fgs :cry:


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If you’re so smart why is your fg so low? :rolleyes:

Everyone knows those with most fg are most knowledgeable players


agreed

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