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Jan 20 2024 12:21pm
Quote (Nataraja @ Jan 20 2024 12:19pm)
Dear god shut up, look back, every person I ever attacked became #1. Im trying to help you guys but you’re beyond help.

It does turn off crushing blow, this is a fact, I don’t care what or how you think about it.



And crushing blow is a very minor part of the total damage output someone does.

You are gimping your build to “turn off” a very small portion of the melee equation.

Not smart in the slightest.

You aren’t helping anyone. Just spewing nonsense like usual.
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Quote (Nataraja @ Jan 20 2024 11:13am)
Bro, how about this. You get all 50 mouth breathing melee guys together and all of you line up in front of me on d2ga and I’ll just beat up everyone’s zealots with the exact build I said and then you guys will be embarrassed for all eternity and leave me alone?


You can duel me on R or LoD and just be done with it? No one plays GA.

CB is largely insignificant after the first hit. My setup does 2200-8200 dmg, shaft + SS is like 1600-5500. Why build around countering such relatively insignificant damage that suffers a lot from diminishing returns?

For someone who talks a lot, you never really say anything.
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Quote (jaaykaay @ Jan 20 2024 12:25pm)
You can duel me on R or LoD and just be done with it? No one plays GA.

CB is largely insignificant after the first hit. My setup does tel:2200-82002200-8200[/URL] dmg, shaft + SS is like tel:1600-55001600-5500[/URL]. Why build around countering such relatively insignificant damage that suffers a lot from diminishing returns?

For someone who talks a lot, you never really say anything.



How much life do you have?
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Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jan 20 2024 12:21pm)
And crushing blow is a very minor part of the total damage output someone does.

You are gimping your build to “turn off” a very small portion of the melee equation.

Not smart in the slightest.

You aren’t helping anyone. Just spewing nonsense like usual.


Anyone with a stormshield can put on a shaftsop and prove my point, it’s only like 2-3 of you guys attacking me.

If I was able to go 58-0 walk smite with 1 person bming me for a loss, I might actually know something you guys don’t.

I’m done here, wear a prudence and ss idc
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Jan 20 2024 12:29pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jan 20 2024 11:27am)
How much life do you have?


About 3800 with this

Edit: tho arguably zero life since I’m arguing about melee with some Rand on jsp RIP

This post was edited by jaaykaay on Jan 20 2024 12:31pm
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Quote (Nataraja @ Jan 20 2024 11:28am)
Anyone with a stormshield can put on a shaftsop and prove my point, it’s only like 2-3 of you guys attacking me.

If I was able to go 58-0 walk smite with 1 person bming me for a loss, I might actually know something you guys don’t.

I’m done here, wear a prudence and ss idc


More talking, no point given, dodge my challenge

Go back to your little hole najarta
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Quote (Nataraja @ Jan 20 2024 12:28pm)
Anyone with a stormshield can put on a shaftsop and prove my point, it’s only like 2-3 of you guys attacking me.

If I was able to go 58-0 walk smite with 1 person bming me for a loss, I might actually know something you guys don’t.

I’m done here, wear a prudence and ss idc



Assumijg a zealer has 4000 life, landing crushing blow on the first hit does 200 damage after the typical 50% DR reduction.

Given zealers have a 25% chance for CB (15% from gore and 10% from craft glove or steelrend), on average, CB does 50 damage on the first hit as 25% of 200 = 50

Congrats on mitigating on average 50 damage on the first hit. And significantly less on subsequent hits.

God you never know what you are talking about.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Jan 20 2024 12:31pm
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Jan 20 2024 12:35pm
For reference, in jays build above, in his typical build, he does 442 average damage before deadly strike.

With your ss + shaft build, that drops down to 301 damage.


So you are wanting to do 140 less average damage so that you take 50 less damage on the first hit. And less on additional hits.

Last I checked 140 is larger than 50
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Jan 20 2024 12:40pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jan 20 2024 12:35pm)
For reference, in jays build above, in his typical build, he does 442 average damage before deadly strike.

With your ss + shaft build, that drops down to 301 damage.


So you are wanting to do 140 less average damage so that you take 50 less damage on the first hit. And less on additional hits.

Last I checked 140 is larger than 50


I min/max everything

Now do the math, also my inventory is full of scs, large and gcs.

Chance to hit formula
(100 * AR / (AR + DR)) * (2 * atLvl / (atLvl + dfLvl))

AR = attack rating
DR = defense rating
atLvl = attacker level
dfLvl = defender level

Ias calc

https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

This post was edited by Nataraja on Jan 20 2024 12:43pm
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Quote (Nataraja @ Jan 20 2024 12:40pm)
I min/max everything

Now do the math, also my inventory is full of scs, large and gcs.



I didn’t even account for deadly strike. Assuming a 92% DS Build, that 442 turns into 848 and your 301 turns into 577.

Making the dmaagw spread even larger.

271.


So you want to do 271 less damage on every hit, so that you take 50 less damage on the first hit, and less than 50 on every hit after that?


Makes sense in your head I’m sure.
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