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Mar 18 2023 01:05am
Quote (neooo @ Mar 18 2023 10:03am)
It's gosu


It's gosu in case you can handle it in one hand and get fcr/res/+skills/facets from offhand.

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Mar 18 2023 01:09am
for player 8 chaos, doom doesn’t look bad. But what about terror zones that don’t have too many cold immunes?

How much faster would p8 chaos be with doom setup vs fathom?

I remember doing player 8 chaos with blizz sorc in legacy and it was a good speed. Now with sunder it’s ridiculous.
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Mar 18 2023 03:32am
Quote (Vandero @ Mar 18 2023 05:59am)
Did you try this in game or just theorized?
I've tried both df and doom setups, tweaking some other gear to reach 105 fcr. Kill speed difference vs cold immunes was barely noticeable. So I settled for df in the end because it significantly increases dps vs all monsters. My only grief with the df setup is that you don't get that sexy holy freeze aura.


It's just the maths atm, I haven't had a chance to set up a reliable P8 game to do some testing and it's also more difficult for me to do that because I don't have a consistent squad of my own and lobbies on console aren't great lol.

That's partly why I'm curious if anyone had done any actual side-by-side testing, because trying to do that myself is a bit of a pain lol. But next time I get the time to play for a while I'll definitely try and get a good sample size of timed P8 runs.
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Mar 18 2023 03:37am
Quote (Vandero @ Mar 18 2023 05:59am)
Did you try this in game or just theorized?
I've tried both df and doom setups, tweaking some other gear to reach 105 fcr. Kill speed difference vs cold immunes was barely noticeable. So I settled for df in the end because it significantly increases dps vs all monsters. My only grief with the df setup is that you don't get that sexy holy freeze aura.


Gotcha, good to know! Was that in high player count games, and what kind of area(s)? I've done some brief P1 testing and shit dies too quickly to notice any major difference there, hoping to get some time to test in full lobbies over the weekend so interested if that's something you've done.

Either that or I just stash all my charms and SoJs to make mobs artificially tankier by heavily nerfing myself lol.
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Mar 18 2023 06:34am
This is an irrelevant essay because cold sorc is outclassed for end game either way after the cold mastery nerfs

By the time you can afford fathom or doom switch to a good build
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Mar 18 2023 07:04am
Still prefer light sorc
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Mar 18 2023 08:52am
Quote (Flameyes @ Mar 18 2023 12:34pm)
This is an irrelevant essay because cold sorc is outclassed for end game either way after the cold mastery nerfs

By the time you can afford fathom or doom switch to a good build


Because god forbid anyone play a build that isn't THE absolute top-tier for the sake of variety, right? :bonk: I don't suppose you act like this whenever anyone posts about bowazon, or necro, or druid, or basically anything that isn't light sorc / hammerdin / javazon?
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Mar 18 2023 08:53am
Quote (BadmanJSav @ Mar 18 2023 10:52am)
Because god forbid anyone play a build that isn't THE absolute top-tier for the sake of variety, right? :bonk: I don't suppose you act like this whenever anyone posts about bowazon, or necro, or druid, or basically anything that isn't light sorc / hammerdin / javazon?


This is a cold sorc thread and you’re talking about variety?

LMAO
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Mar 18 2023 08:59am
Quote (Flameyes @ Mar 18 2023 02:53pm)
This is a cold sorc thread and you’re talking about variety?

LMAO


It's one of many different builds I use so yes, it's one part of a number of things that constitute 'variety'.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/variety

Hope that helps you grasp what you clearly don't get. Anything on-topic to actually contribute, or are you done trolling?
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Mar 18 2023 10:53am
i feel like not going energyshield as any sorc is kinda wasted potential because you dont need any res with ES.

i mean you could git gud and not get hit4head instead but ima scrub who gets hit reeel hard. then again the Cold immunes in chaos are like real easy so you potentially dont care about them anyways.
i'd go with fathom over doom because flat damage against non immunes and more mf with eni instead of viper.
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