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Quote (ElonMuskrat @ Dec 15 2021 02:44pm)
That seems like a lot more work than just adding new runewords m8.

Going to disagree and say you are looking at it the wrong way.
They worded it badly is all.


this... pretty sure they are saying: "it will work just like the other Ladder-only runewords like Spirit"

when they said this: "like the previous set of Ladder-only Rune Words in the original Diablo II experience"
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Quote (Monze @ Dec 15 2021 01:43pm)
Yea ladder had TONS of pvp and pvp was the only reason people remade their chars every ladder... + :rofl:

PVP was for the minority of d2 and always has been.


without PVP, its just PVMers PVMing to find items to sell to other PVMers looking to MF so they can sell to other PVMers who want to MF to find items they can sell to PVMers who want to MF to find items to sell to PVMers who want to find items to sell to PVMers who want to find items to sell to PVMers.

To infinity.



Without PVM, D2 is dead, long ago.


And if these changes continue to impact PVP, and the PVP crowd abondonds D2r, the game will die quickly.
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That seems like a lot more work than just adding new runewords m8.

Going to disagree and say you are looking at it the wrong way.
They worded it badly is all.


O you sure dont know how Activision works. AKA the guys running the shit show of Diablo 3... and THEY are the ones in charge of D2R. Vicarious Vision or whatever may do the graphic and coding... but they have to have all of the ideas passed thru Activision Blizzard first.

And what i stated is EXACTLY what D3 forces u to do. They essentially made it so NOBODY should play Non Ladder (non season for d3 terms) and they want everyone to always start fresh which is annoying as fuck cause this game is such a huge time sink to even get half a decent PK/PVP char setup.
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I am expecting mostly mid-level runewords which won't be crazy expensive. This is good and bad. At first it's great because they will be attainable and most players will have the opportunity to explore them, but on the other hand I expect them to have an effect on the game similar to Spirit and Insight.

I am mostly excited to use something other than an Act II merc. I have made so many wonky builds to use other mercs but most of the time they just aren't great.
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Quote (Overpriced @ 15 Dec 2021 20:47)
without PVP, its just PVMers PVMing to find items to sell to other PVMers looking to MF so they can sell to other PVMers who want to MF to find items they can sell to PVMers who want to MF to find items to sell to PVMers who want to find items to sell to PVMers who want to find items to sell to PVMers.

To infinity.



Without PVM, D2 is dead, long ago.


And if these changes continue to impact PVP, and the PVP crowd abondonds D2r, the game will die quickly.


Not a chance. PVPers has allways played on NL and the majority of players have been coming around for the ladder resets.

As long as there is a ladder to play D2R will have players. I dont see anyone going back to OG d2 ladder. Pvpers can go OG d2 if they want but most likely d2r NL is gonna be low population compared to d2r ladder
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We've had the same meta for 20 years. It's time for something besides blizz sorc, hammerdins, nigmas and spirits.
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Quote (and1balla_7 @ Dec 15 2021 11:48am)
O you sure dont know how Activision works. AKA the guys running the shit show of Diablo 3... and THEY are the ones in charge of D2R. Vicarious Vision or whatever may do the graphic and coding... but they have to have all of the ideas passed thru Activision Blizzard first.

And what i stated is EXACTLY what D3 forces u to do. They essentially made it so NOBODY should play Non Ladder (non season for d3 terms) and they want everyone to always start fresh which is annoying as fuck cause this game is such a huge time sink to even get half a decent PK/PVP char setup.


All the godly PVP chars will ultimately be on non-ladder. This is how it has always been. You make your FG flipping overpriced items then deck out your dude after ladder ends.
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Quote (Monze @ Dec 15 2021 01:50pm)
Not a chance. PVPers has allways played on NL and the majority of players have been coming around for the ladder resets.

As long as there is a ladder to play D2R will have players. I dont see anyone going back to OG d2 ladder. Pvpers can go OG d2 if they want but most likely d2r NL is gonna be low population compared to d2r ladder


There is always a large amount of PVPers on ladder.

And ladder MFs to sell stuff to people looking to MF to find stuff to sell to the PVP crowd, both on ladder and when the good items roll over to NL.

This game is dead without PVP
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