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Aug 17 2021 03:13am
Quote (freeuse @ Aug 17 2021 04:02am)
id just equip tg and wisp, ADAPT! D2r wont be the same.
if mind blast is considered ”bm” then people will adapt and nk mb sins
Just like you dont see necs spamming bone prison, or ppl stacking slow. It will simply become an unwritten rule.


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Aug 17 2021 03:19am
Quote (ekoe @ 17 Aug 2021 11:13)
and you by far are not a dueler, your some 2020 random posting about a game you know nothing about, how about you let the big dogs that have played this game consistantly for 15+ years dueling daily/weekly talk.


I can tell you what is going to happen to the pvp scene if this is not fixed and wsg is working the same as current on http://battle.net/battle.net[/URL] today.

the pvp/dueling scene will simply just die out very quickly.
Wsg allows you to have a Reactive/proactive playstyle on both fronts of the duel

you have to have wsg and fhr in order to deal with in coming damage because fhr isn't enough on it's own, being able to wsg and react to what is happening is very important.

i'll give a few examples of what will happen

Ex1.
Player A charges player B, player B gets put into fhr, player A continues to permantly charge him, while player B sits gets knocked backwards across the map without control of their character because they failed the fhr check.
Without a way to react or get out of this charge it will be literally 1 name lock -> to death.

ex2.
Player A mindblasts Player B and lays down trap then firebomb immediately
Player B is fhr'd by the mindblast, fhr'd by the firebomb and repeadly stuck in this combo until they die

there are many many game breaking scenarios that are too much to list but the main take away is you need to be able to break the fhr animation by swapping weapons to be able to duel fluidly other wise you are completely out of control and dead in a lot of situations.

i can say that a lot of people are posting that this was a bug and not intended for the game but i do not think you realize you won't be dueling, you will be watching your character die because you cannot get out of any incoming damage.



pvp scene existed longer without wsg, maybe you arent old enough or played long enough to remember. and it will be fine in d2r too :)
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Aug 17 2021 03:20am
A glitch that has been fixed. Damn you blizzard. :unsure:
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Aug 17 2021 03:22am
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pvp scene existed longer without wsg, maybe you arent old enough or played long enough to remember. and it will be fine in d2r too :)


wsg existed as far back as the launch of 1.08 and could have been used all throughout 1.09 dueling, the only reason it wasn't is because nobody knew about it
just like blaze sorcs townguarding with invisible fires to instant kill people trying to enter blood moor could have been a thing even in classic, but people only figured out recently

wsg would have been mostly irrelevant in 1.09 duels, because it was 95% zon vs zon and as soon as one zon has the other in a chain of piercing guided arrows the duel is over and wsg doesn't do anything to save you. It would just let people sync more for positioning, as they figured out in ZvZ come 1.10+. The wsg-based chars who exist today have their worst matchups by far against zons.
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Aug 17 2021 03:22am
Quote (freeuse @ Aug 17 2021 04:19am)
pvp scene existed longer without wsg, maybe you arent old enough or played long enough to remember. and it will be fine in d2r too :)


guess it really doesn't affect you since
1 you do not pvp
2 if you did you'd be in some melee vs melee retard game :)
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Aug 17 2021 03:24am
Quote (freeuse @ Aug 17 2021 04:19am)
pvp scene existed longer without wsg, maybe you arent old enough or played long enough to remember. and it will be fine in d2r too :)


You'll think otherwise once a trapper has got you caught by swirlies traps hit u
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Aug 17 2021 03:25am
Quote (zShada @ 17 Aug 2021 11:24)
You'll think otherwise once a trapper has got you caught by swirlies traps hit u

Nope ill just use absorb
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Aug 17 2021 03:26am
Quote (freeuse @ Aug 17 2021 04:25am)
Nope ill just use absorb


your not going to absorb shit, your literally going to die to mindblast LOL
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Aug 17 2021 03:26am
Quote (freeuse @ Aug 17 2021 04:25am)
Nope ill just use absorb


You wont be able to move. Once caught with the current way wsg is
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