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Apr 10 2026 04:29pm
I'm pointing out the design will create situations where the demon dies on weapon swaps or gear changes if they design it like other summons we know die on gear swaps. That should not happen with your bind pet specifically as it's pretty shit QoL. Hard points should not be a requirement to keep your bind demon alive on gear change. In the current iteration no matter what gear swaps you do your demon isn't going to die unless you go below the 1 base point somehow or got the bind demon from an item with no base point and then remove it. Creating tiers 5 10 15 20 whatever to the type of pet as a requirement is a surefire way to constantly f up your demon removing charms even.


You seem to not understand what "base points" are.
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Apr 10 2026 04:30pm
You seem to not understand what "base points" are.


Oh nvm I guess I didn't read it properly. I figured you could hit the tiers with bonus points.
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Apr 10 2026 04:33pm
20 hard points means it wont die from weap swaps

anyway forced hard point investments is how nerfs works from a developers stand point. To force u to waste ur valueable skill points that can no longer be spent into DPS synergys, etc (ex: no more 20 pt consume builds now).

But i do agree the shield usage on off hand with a 2 hander might have been a bit unnecessary being that they advertised the warlock to be a giga chad to be able to levitate a 2hander in a 1hand slot. But again ... you prolly need to play diablo 4 to understand how over zealous the Blizzard team is when it comes to nerfs and buffs. They will MASSIVELY over buff the new stuff to get money made/product sold. Then SEVERELY castrate the class after the money has been taken from the customers. The D4 paladin literally got castrated the following season patch after it was early released lol. Stealing your money so EZ like taking candy from a baby. So it was 1000% expected warlock was going bye bye after this launch.


Yeah I need to read it properly next time. I figured they were creating a situation to kill bound demons easily.

I did like some of the changes they were doing as everyone was clamoring for things like sunders dropping randomly like gheeds. But yeah the shield nerf is dumb as hell. I have found multiple high runes close to Zod and not a single good tome and they are forcing tomes? Really? I may have found 5 of the lower level unique tomes but that one isn't used much end game. The ars drop rates either have to be buffed or shields need to be unrestricted w 2h. The fact the tomes are stronger than the shields end game and restricting the shields makes zero sense.

This post was edited by BlakeXeal on Apr 10 2026 04:35pm
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Apr 10 2026 04:42pm
well once ptr is live, dmg on echo is gonna go down MASSIVELY with the dmg changing from multiplicative to additive if u didnt see that note.

so people are gonna be scavenging to make back as much dmg with alot of ed% affix gear, etc wherever they can put it (phx monarch is off the tables for 2 handers ... but then someone needs to test if just ignoring using a 2 hander and just slapping phx monarch on and use a 1 hander weapon will yield more dmg then a 2hander + meph book).
The mathing on how much off weapon enhance dmg scaling with echo is gonna need to be tested against the new echo strike dmg change (no longer multiplicative, and is now additive). So its pretty easy for someone to test once the PTR goes live.

slap non eth Insight 2 hander + meph book.... or ebotd TM/Death Decap + meph book. VS like Eth Death Zerker + Phx mon or even just phx monarch + hoto flail or something (gotta see how the echo dmg range is on the skill tool bar too see if the equip weap HEAVILY skews the echo strike dmg)


Didn't they make weapons now take durability damage from echoing? So trying to scrounge together extra damage from that won't work without zodded eth weapons. Makes me glad I invested in an obsession at least although with the damage modifiers changing it'll be pitiful damage but at least I can use the weapon on another build like fire. What are people going to do with all those ethereal fortitude thundermauls? :rofl:

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Apr 10 2026 04:48pm
Rip all my eth fort tm's are useless now
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Apr 10 2026 04:54pm
Rip all my eth fort tm's are useless now


You will be playing ladder, wipe and get new sht anyway :drool:
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Apr 10 2026 04:55pm
glad i invested in fire & magi gear on NL, for this exact reason i stayed away from ES :banana:
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Apr 10 2026 04:58pm
When they said they removed conviction aura as one of the bonuses are they saying you can no longer bind a demon with conviction aura and it will remove it too? I feel like that wasn't even the strongest aura they're nerfing if that's the case. Maybe it's only related to the bonus auras for hard points at 15.

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Apr 10 2026 05:10pm
When they said they removed conviction aura as one of the bonuses are they saying you can no longer bind a demon with conviction aura and it will remove it too? I feel like that wasn't even the strongest aura they're nerfing if that's the case. Maybe it's only related to the bonus auras for hard points at 15.


based on current context and not actually on the PTR server to try out ...
we "technically" should be able to still bind a conviction aura demon IF it naturally spawns conviction (which is still possible for ANY champ/rare/super uniq monster unless they hard code remove conviction from monsters).

So all this does is make u REALLY have to grind for a conviction bind demon since u cant use the random generated aura that is built in with the lvl 20 bind demon skill. So getting a TZ'd conviction super uniq demon for example...will take some work.
You also cannot "despawn" a super uniq, etc and then try to turn it TZ'd with a shard once u already see it. Easily already tested. Go wake up Andy in hell without TZ. Then pop a shard in to turn all act 1 TZ. Andy stays lvl 69 and doesnt become her TZ form. Unless theres some 5 minute wait period u gotta do (which i didnt do). i just popped the shard after i found her (the found her part is having to get up close to them and highlight them to see their HP bar to see affixes), to essentially simulate having to "get a glimpse of a hephisto/Lister" to see if they have correct affixes before i TZ the game... so you cant pre-farm an elite and TZ the game because it is already spawned as Non TZ.

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Apr 10 2026 05:30pm
based on current context and not actually on the PTR server to try out ...
we "technically" should be able to still bind a conviction aura demon IF it naturally spawns conviction (which is still possible for ANY champ/rare/super uniq monster unless they hard code remove conviction from monsters).

So all this does is make u REALLY have to grind for a conviction bind demon since u cant use the random generated aura that is built in with the lvl 20 bind demon skill. So getting a TZ'd conviction super uniq demon for example...will take some work.
You also cannot "despawn" a super uniq, etc and then try to turn it TZ'd with a shard once u already see it. Easily already tested. Go wake up Andy in hell without TZ. Then pop a shard in to turn all act 1 TZ. Andy stays lvl 69 and doesnt become her TZ form. Unless theres some 5 minute wait period u gotta do (which i didnt do). i just popped the shard after i found her (the found her part is having to get up close to them and highlight them to see their HP bar to see affixes), to essentially simulate having to "get a glimpse of a hephisto/Lister" to see if they have correct affixes before i TZ the game... so you cant pre-farm an elite and TZ the game because it is already spawned as Non TZ.


I actually enjoyed the whole prefarming concept and being able to terrorize to empower it but if you can't well there goes a good portion of the demon selling market.
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